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    #41
    Originally posted by Parody
    What's up man? Just been busy and all University and work... I see NSB gets worse each day lol.
    Lmao yea, I'm in college too. Be posting on here during one of my classes, smh...lol.

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    • duss
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      #42
      Originally posted by mangler
      i just revisited this thread a few times cuz it was funny homey. Check my post history before you say **** like this bro. Pbf is far from bein my hero. The guy has nothin but haters and ****riders. This is one of the resaons why i always say cats should just not talk about him at all til he actually comes back. Can't be no discussion without cats on either side gettin their whinyass feelins hurt.
      nah bro im not hurt at all just cant stand people that talk **** about how they dont care about a thread and then come on here and post like you did once again i, if it makes u feel better ill apologize for calling pbf your hero but i really dont check peoples f***ing past post im not i stalker and really dont give a **** what someone posted before

      and im not hurt jus trying too here what people got too say

      thats fine thats the way you feel about talking about him so if you have nothing too say why come on here, why not move on

      i aint got **** against u bro but u seem too care what people think about this whole thing if u keep coming back

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      • deliveryman
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        #43
        Originally posted by duss
        okay i respct your opinion as well because you have alot of great points but with this close of a fight were you say it was that hard too tell wouldnt it be smart too use something like compu-box too help you make a decision were castillo landed more and the harder shots on that

        you said i score different than you and you think that floyd landed the harder shots

        i think castillo landed the harder shots and even had floyd on the run a couple of times

        so with both are disagreements wouldnt you say using a tool like compu- box would help someone show who really landed more and the harder ones

        or do you think compu-box numbers is wrong

        and if it was so close to you than why did the judges have it ud for floyd

        and there numbers were ridiculous
        The compubox numbers are misleading. Fights are scored on a round by round basis.

        The early rounds that Floyd won, there wasn't much action, Floyd won those rounds by only landing a couple clean punches, and clearly outboxing Castillo.

        The rounds that Castillo won, were action packed rounds, where he trapped Mayweather on the ropes and wailed away with sometimes 5-10 punches at a time. The rounds Castillo won, he might of landed 30-35 punches.

        The problem with compubox is that, both of those rounds are worth the same.

        For example, take 3 rounds that Floyd won, and assume he landed 12 punches in each of those rounds, giving him a compubox total of 36 punches landed. Now take 2 rounds that Castillo won, and give him an average of 30 punches landed in those 2 rounds. By compubox, Castillo outlanded Mayweather 60-36, but only won 2/5 rounds.

        Now you can see how compubox numbers don't always tell the full story, and how it can be at times misleading, especially in a very complex fight such as this.

        It is also why fights aren't scored this way.
        Last edited by deliveryman; 03-20-2009, 07:40 PM.

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        • mariusfeneru
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          #44
          and....who is floyd.......i dont like it......





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            #45
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            • Spacey1991
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              #46
              [QUOTE=mangler;4940429]
              Originally posted by GreatJoe
              Old as ****, this has been done to death, stop wasting your time, NO ONE CARES.


              Can I get an Amen?
              AMEN!

              Originally posted by duss
              it is a valid argument its not that he didnt make up for it

              its the fact that fact that his cult seems too keep using the punchline that he's the greatest because he's undeafeted when he shouldnt be undeafeted he lost that fight bottom line

              and yes he did beat castillo the second time around but his undefeated record is tainted because he lost the first time and castillo was robbed
              Your acting like it was a one sided fight and a robbery... when it wasn't, Floyd took most of the first 6 rounds... all he would of needed it one or 2 of the last 6 to win it so by no means was it a robbery or was there a clear winner. It was close and could have gone either way. HBO got it wrong scoring Castillo so ahead and the judges got it wrong by scoring Mayweather so much ahead.

              Floyd had a torn rotator cuff, hence why he kept changing to southpaw... this was on his left shoulder and as you can see it was a close fight and in the rematch he won decisively. This has seriously been done to death, this is seriously getting old... do you honestly think you are the first person to come up with this? This argument is boring now, its done... just let it go, you would if it was any other fighter.

              I mean no disrespect but things should just be left alone for the sake of arguments.

              Originally posted by duss
              so your telling me that in a close round you would give it too the guy that was not controlling the pace and landed the softer punches

              because in both of these so called close rounds thats what happened

              so we award people that run and only throw jabs and land less punches in a round the softer ones at that

              like i said just because it was close doesnt mean it shouldnt have gone to castillo who did everything he should have to win

              really i usually never use compubox but numbers dont lie and in a
              close fight why would you award a fighter who landed the softer shots and less at that

              pretty much your awarding him based off the fact the he is a slick boxer and got away from alot of castillo's punches

              that statement would work if he had landed more of the punches and the more effective ones

              and in the first five rounds there were a couple of rounds where you could say that he only won those rounds by a few jabs so we give him those rounds but not give rounds to castillo that he fought for and deserved thats just wrong
              I am gonna be honest with you the computbox numbers shocked me, it didn't look like some of the rounds were that one sided in landings... I remember after some rounds saying "**** really?" after compubox numbers were announced, so maybe that is what shocked judges in the fight because they can't just look at the compubox numbers and score it if you get what I mean?

              Listen mate, I can admit that Floyd could have been considered quite fortunate, but by no means was it a robbery... it was a close fight and it isn't reject able to say Floyd or Castillo sc****d it, hell it could have even been a draw. You understand what i am saying?

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              • Spacey1991
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                #47
                Originally posted by deliveryman
                You're making it seem as if I think the fight wasn't close. The fight was EXTREMELY close. I have no problems with you thinking Castillo won the fight, clearly your criteria for judging fights is slightly different than mine and a lot of peoples.

                I just have a problem with the fact that you are unable to accept that your opinion isn't the absolute. The fight was not a robbery, it was so close that it could of been scored for either fighter, it just so happened it was given to Floyd that night. Give credit to Floyd for giving Castillo the immediate rematch, and winning decisively, without a torn rotator cuff.

                By the way, Floyd is right handed, meaning his jab typically lands on the opponents right side of the face, not the left.

                Floyd strafed Castillo with some pretty damn nice righthands.
                I agree with the bulk of that, green karma.

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                • andrewcuff
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by deliveryman
                  The compubox numbers are misleading. Fights are scored on a round by round basis.

                  The early rounds that Floyd won, there wasn't much action, Floyd won those rounds by only landing a couple clean punches, and clearly outboxing Castillo.

                  The rounds that Castillo won, were action packed rounds, where he trapped Mayweather on the ropes and wailed away with sometimes 5-10 punches at a time. The rounds Castillo won, he might of landed 30-35 punches.

                  The problem with compubox is that, both of those rounds are worth the same.

                  For example, take 3 rounds that Floyd won, and assume he landed 12 punches in each of those rounds, giving him a compubox total of 36 punches landed. Now take 2 rounds that Castillo won, and give him an average of 30 punches landed in those 2 rounds. By compubox, Castillo outlanded Mayweather 60-36, but only won 2/5 rounds.

                  Now you can see how compubox numbers don't always tell the full story, and how it can be at times misleading, especially in a very complex fight such as this.

                  It is also why fights aren't scored this way.
                  Good post. Green K

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                  • deliveryman
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by andrewcuff
                    Good post. Green K
                    Thanks. Though, I'm a little disappointed that I would even have to explain that to a boxing fan.

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                      #50
                      You= 0-117

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