Can the People Who thought Samuel Peter Was a Good fighter admit they Got It Wrong?

[paul750]

To this day, it baffles me how anybody ever thought the guy was any good. Some otherwise intelligent people even thought he could stay in the top 3 for years to come. Wasn't it fairly obvious that he could be outboxed by a decent fighter? Yes, he had some degree of success against Wladimir, but even that was nowhere near enough to qualify him as anything other than decent at best. He's a big, strong, crude guy with powerful, but not accurate punches. So here you have a guy with those qualities, as well as a supposedly good chin [which was later found out to be not as good as people thought], and that's supposed to be enough to be successful for years to come ?

Someone like Frank Bruno, who wasn't particulary skilled - he was strong and crude like Peter. Even he had better fundamentals than Sammy Boy . I mean, it's just one of those head scratching questions. Don't get me wrong, I've got things wrong when I thought a fighter would do better than they eventually did. But with Peter it seemed so blindingly obvious. Did anybody honestly ever look at the guy and think ''My God, it's like there's a new Ike Ibeabuchi''? I mean, did you?

I get the feeling some people knew he wasn't that great, but tried to convince themselves that he was because he seemed to have a nice personality. This Saturday we'll at least see somebody who can box take on Klitschko.

[Mugwump]

Bruno had a better jab than Peter. It certainly gave Lennox Lewis a lot of problems.

[The Hammer]

People used to overrate Peter - Teddy Atlas thought he was the next great heavyweight! But now, people are underrating him.

Peter is what he is - a hard-punching, crude, strong, durable, and somewhat limited fighter. I rated him as the 8th to 10th best heavyweight both before and after the McCline and Vitali fights. My opinion of him never changes.

[Derranged]

People used to overrate Peter - Teddy Atlas thought he was the next great heavyweight! But now, people are underrating him.

Peter is what he is - a hard-punching, crude, strong, durable, and somewhat limited fighter. I rated him as the 8th to 10th best heavyweight both before and after the McCline and Vitali fights.

Cosign... But I think Peter's stamina/conditioning and desire have faded so now he looks worse than he did a few years ago.

[pistol whip]

I don't think he is the greates HW in the world but he hasn't exactly lost to any one except the Klitchkos.

[βetamax]

People used to overrate Peter - Teddy Atlas thought he was the next great heavyweight! But now, people are underrating him.

Peter is what he is - a hard-punching, crude, strong, durable, and somewhat limited fighter. I rated him as the 8th to 10th best heavyweight both before and after the McCline and Vitali fights. My opinion of him never changes.

Your view is that he correctly belongs between 8-10. For someone to be underrating him they would have to place him below 10 according to your own standards. How many people have you seen that place him below 10?

[MANGLER]

Even when the guy was at the height of his hype a few yrs back I never was on the bandwagon. Dude is done as a feared fighter. He's just the K bros *****.

[The Hammer]

Your view is that he correctly belongs between 8-10. For someone to be underrating him they would have to place him below 10 according to your own standards. How many people have you seen that place him below 10?

I'm referring to the many people on this and other forums who hyped him before and call him a bum now. A "bum" to my understanding, is ranked lower than #8 to #10.

Mt102879, over half your posts are either about me, or answering my posts. You seem to have an OBSESSION with me, and that's not healthy. There was someone else who used to do that, but then he found a job and he doesn't consider me so important now.

But I don't mind, because it amuses me. It doesn't annoy me like Fedayin's childishness, because you may be crazy, but you're not ******.

[βetamax]

I'm referring to the many people on this and other forums who hyped him before and call him a bum now. A "bum" to my understanding, is ranked lower than #8 to #10.

Mt102879, over half your posts are either about me, or answering my posts. You seem to have an OBSESSION with me, and that's not healthy. There was someone else who used to do that, but then he found a job and he doesn't consider me so important now.

But I don't mind, because it amuses me. It doesn't annoy me like Fedayin's childishness, because you may be crazy, but you're not ******.

Obviously people throw around the term "bum" loosely. Most people think the heavyweight division is garbage to begin with so it's not out of the question that someone could still have him in the top 10.

Anyone think he should be placed below 10?

[Johnnybur]

To this day, it baffles me how anybody ever thought the guy was any good. Some otherwise intelligent people even thought he could stay in the top 3 for years to come. Wasn't it fairly obvious that he could be outboxed by a decent fighter? Yes, he had some degree of success against Wladimir, but even that was nowhere near enough to qualify him as anything other than decent at best. He's a big, strong, crude guy with powerful, but not accurate punches. So here you have a guy with those qualities, as well as a supposedly good chin [which was later found out to be not as good as people thought], and that's supposed to be enough to be successful for years to come ?

Someone like Frank Bruno, who wasn't particulary skilled - he was strong and crude like Peter. Even he had better fundamentals than Sammy Boy . I mean, it's just one of those head scratching questions. Don't get me wrong, I've got things wrong when I thought a fighter would do better than they eventually did. But with Peter it seemed so blindingly obvious. Did anybody honestly ever look at the guy and think ''My God, it's like there's a new Ike Ibeabuchi''? I mean, did you?

I get the feeling some people knew he wasn't that great, but tried to convince themselves that he was because he seemed to have a nice personality. This Saturday we'll at least see somebody who can box take on Klitschko.

The only reason why Peter got the hype he did was because of Klitschko haters who were trying so hard to find another heavyweight to take Wlad or Vitali out that they for some reason jumped on his bandwagon because he had power in both hands and had a decent personality. But after his "Who Next" quotes, even his personality has suffered.