What Gets Me About Mayweather's Return...

[Mr. Ryan]

when the hell has he said that. He always goes on about how much of a draw he is.

Arturo Gatti could fight Gianluca Branco in Atlantic City and pack the house. If Mayweather is confident that he's a draw like that, he should fight someone on that level and see how many people are in the house that night.

I think he should get realistic about this. What he should do if he wants the sort of money he is looking for is promote it himself and pay himself off the amount of money the show takes in. A real draw wouldn't need an inordinate TV fee because the gate would surpass that and then some.

[Texanballer]

Mayweather-Collazo in the MGM Grand will be lucky to have 5000 people in the arena imo, and i would be a lot would be tickets handed out to people

[Mr. Ryan]

I know...you gotta give Paul a pass tho. He's still a new guy. He isn't known by the casual fan. Gatti was Mr. Atlantic City. Paul's still building his career.

It's about personality and entertainment value. John Duddy and Pawel Wolak, who are much less famous than Williams, are huge draws in the Northeast. Williams just doesn't bring out the fans.

Mayweather can bring out the fans but not on the level that he believes he can. He wants more money than he can bring in.

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It's about personality and entertainment value. John Duddy and Pawel Wolak, who are much less famous than Williams, are huge draws in the Northeast. Williams just doesn't bring out the fans.

Mayweather can bring out the fans but not on the level that he believes he can. He wants more money than he can bring in.

True. Floyd can bring in the money he wants but he has to fight someone of substance to do it. Floyd-Hatton did well from wat I remember. He won't be gettin no Oscar like paydays tho.

Duddy fights in NY. Lil different IMO. The casual fan doesn't know either guy.

[Mr. Ryan]

True. Floyd can bring in the money he wants but he has to fight someone of substance to do it. Floyd-Hatton did well from wat I remember. He won't be gettin no Oscar like paydays tho.

Duddy fights in NY. Lil different IMO. The casual fan doesn't know either guy.

When Floyd fought Hatton, Hatton brought the bulk of the house in. De La Hoya is De la Hoya, there aren't many draws like him in sports, period. They were the draws, Mayweather was the talent.

The casual fan doesn't know either guy but the locals in NY pack venues when they fight. Williams fought in front of a near empty crowd when he faced Verno Phillips.

[MANGLER]

If the man's gonna come back and fight, he should fight to win, not just for the ****in $. Piss on the bucks and just prove you're still the best PBF.

[Pullcounter]

I was reading Tom Hauser's report on MaxBoxing about Mayweather looking for a tuneup before taking on a mega fight.

Hauser reported that Mayweather didn't want to compromise his negotiating power for the Pacquiao-Hatton winner by having poor PPV numbers so he wanted it on regular HBO. On the other hand, he wants to get paid super money for the fight.

Just being "good" has never equaled the big bucks in this business. Plenty of "good" fighters have had a hard time bringing the fans into the arena and selling PPVs. What sells tickets is exciting fighters that go above and beyond the call of duty to entertain. Look at Paul Williams and Arturo Gatti; Williams was the better fighter by far but Gatti drew 12,000 for his fights. Williams can't do that.

If a fighter can't draw, why should HBO break the bank to get him on TV? It's all about demand with any goods, and if Mayweather isn't in the kind of demand where he can sell X amount of PPVs, why shell out the money?

HBO should not break its back to get floyd to fight. HBO should not automatically give floyd a date. I read that floyd wants the same date as hopkins/adamek.... if so, he's got to have an opponent that would make the fight better than hopkins/adamek, which imho is a pretty good fight. whoever floyd fights has also got to be willing to take a huge hit in the purse strings.

I dunno anyone desperate enoough to give into all of floyd's demands.

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When Floyd fought Hatton, Hatton brought the bulk of the house in. De La Hoya is De la Hoya, there aren't many draws like him in sports, period. They were the draws, Mayweather was the talent.

The casual fan doesn't know either guy but the locals in NY pack venues when they fight. Williams fought in front of a near empty crowd when he faced Verno Phillips.

Floyd may not be the draw he thinks he is but he's still gonna draw big. His name is big enough. Regardless of who he fights. Hatton-DLH wouldn't do as big numbers Oscar-Floyd. Floyd's a bigger draw than Hatton IMO. The combination worked well.

[Mr. Ryan]

Floyd may not be the draw he thinks he is but he's still gonna draw big. His name is big enough. Regardless of who he fights. Hatton-DLH wouldn't do as big numbers Oscar-Floyd. Floyd's a bigger draw than Hatton IMO. The combination worked well.

I really don't know about all of that. If Floyd fought in England, how many fans would travel there from America? Just Horus, probably.

Take this into consideration; Zab Judah is fighting in Vegas the day before Hatton-Pacquiao and the promoter is seeking a British opponent to capitalize on the 2,000+ Brits who will be coming from England to sell tickets to.

Hatton's crowd was considerably more vocal in the Mayweather fight. It might as well have been in Manchester.