Hatton think beating Manny makes him P4P #1

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  • MikeBrew328
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    #41
    If he beats Pacquiao, Hopkins should be P4p #1...or Marquez. Hopefully someobdy else will get the spot though....Hatton does not have pound 4 pound skills when he says he can only fight at 140....that ruins the credibility of a POUND FOR POUND title, its supposed to be skills regardless of weight... which Hatton obviously doesn't have if he can't fight at 147 or make a lower weight. Look at the history of the title....Roy Jones, Ray Leonard, Robinson, Mayweather...these guys all fought higher than their natural weight and we successful....hence, pound for pound.

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    • crold1
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      #42
      Originally posted by MikeBrew328
      If he beats Pacquiao, Hopkins should be P4p #1...or Marquez. Hopefully someobdy else will get the spot though....Hatton does not have pound 4 pound skills when he says he can only fight at 140....that ruins the credibility of a POUND FOR POUND title, its supposed to be skills regardless of weight... which Hatton obviously doesn't have if he can't fight at 147 or make a lower weight. Look at the history of the title....Roy Jones, Ray Leonard, Robinson, Mayweather...these guys all fought higher than their natural weight and we successful....hence, pound for pound.
      LOL...the only P4P ratings that matter are for retired fighters and it ain't a title. It's a debate.

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      • Shadow boxer 3
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        #43
        Originally posted by Johnny Rebel
        P4P has nothing to do with a fighters ability to move up in weight, especially for small fighters who fight way below their natural weight and then are able to grow into their natural weights stopping in several divisions. Ricky was small as a teen and could have started at 130 or under and won belts at all those weights if that was his goal. Sometimes it's better to dominate your division than selectively going up in weight to fight hand picked opponents to claim a title in several divisions...

        Hatton couldn't do nothing at WW huh? Ricky did manage to win a world title at WW over a damn good fighter named Collazo, that's hardly "nothing" now!
        LOL !! Hatton was hurt and wobbled by Collazo and escaped with a VERY close points win

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        • Wood23ard
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          #44
          He will be up there for sure, i think if he beats manny and then goes onto beating floyd/jmm he will be no.1

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          • deliveryman
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            #45
            Originally posted by Johnny Rebel
            P4P has nothing to do with a fighters ability to move up in weight, especially for small fighters who fight way below their natural weight and then are able to grow into their natural weights stopping in several divisions. Ricky was small as a teen and could have started at 130 or under and won belts at all those weights if that was his goal. Sometimes it's better to dominate your division than selectively going up in weight to fight hand picked opponents to claim a title in several divisions...

            Hatton couldn't do nothing at WW huh? Ricky did manage to win a world title at WW over a damn good fighter named Collazo, that's hardly "nothing" now!
            Honestly, I'm a Hatton fan myself, but I stopped reading after:

            P4P has nothing to do with a fighters ability to move up in weight
            You got to be kidding me.

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            • Johnny Rebel
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              #46
              Originally posted by Shadow boxer 3
              LOL !! Hatton was hurt and wobbled by Collazo and escaped with a VERY close points win
              Hatton knocked Collazo down as you can see in my sig and regardless of how close the fight was, Ricky still won!

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              • Johnny Rebel
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                #47
                Originally posted by deliveryman
                Honestly, I'm a Hatton fan myself, but I stopped reading after:



                You got to be kidding me.
                Then you're pretty ignorant!

                P4P is about who would theoretically win if 2 fighters, fighting at their best fighting weight fought each other, nothing more. It never had anything to do with moving up or down in weight classes.

                Was Hagler considered a P4P fighter even though he never fought past MW? A HW could also never be on a P4P list using this logic, unless they're able to move down to CW and LHW...

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                • Shadow boxer 3
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Johnny Rebel
                  Hatton knocked Collazo down as you can see in my sig and regardless of how close the fight was, Ricky still won!
                  that was a love tap flash knock down. Collazo actually had Hatton hurt

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                  • Johnny Rebel
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Shadow boxer 3
                    that was a love tap flash knock down. Collazo actually had Hatton hurt
                    And yet Hatton didn't go down so he wasn't THAT hurt... Haters are frigging ridiculous!

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                    • lest26
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                      #50
                      i think if you beat the best you are the best despite what your oppinion on his style is, it seems to me ppl only see the number 1 p4p fighter as been the man who has moved up through several divisions, i dont no if this is the case but if it isnt then there is no reason why Hatton cant have the number 1 slot, if he goes on to fight JMM or PBF and beats them then yeah he should definetly have it, oh but as PBF is as good as back PAC is number 2 realy i think.

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