floyd is a genius...he planned all of this

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  • dans
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    #61
    Originally posted by kev183
    Without the 5 titles Floyd is still the best..just look at the daily threads made by his haters, lovers, and nutthuggers..hes hated mostly because of his flamboyant style hiss skills and talent are ignored by those who get caught up in his Boxing Character..hes the bad guy and u gotta love him because u want ur favorite fighter to fight him..thats when ur the best..when u have people demanding ur downfall but u just wont go down
    Yup, he's Jordan and the Bulls. Good point.

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      #62
      Originally posted by kev183
      Without the 5 titles Floyd is still the best..just look at the daily threads made by his haters, lovers, and nutthuggers..hes hated mostly because of his flamboyant style hiss skills and talent are ignored by those who get caught up in his Boxing Character..hes the bad guy and u gotta love him because u want ur favorite fighter to fight him..thats when ur the best..when u have people demanding ur downfall but u just wont go down
      Mike Tyson was a bad guy, Floyd Mayweather is not. He may act like it, but he's not.

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      • M.I Truth ?
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        #63
        Originally posted by andrewcuff
        #1 Floyd has only ever done huge numbers against Oscar/Hatton where they were the big PPV draws

        #2 I don't see how Floyd could get that high in the list. There's too many fighters around those rankings that have done far more than Floyd. For example, the Ring's ATG list have Leonard in that bracket and I don't see how beating Mosley, Cotto, Marquez (if he got through these) is as good as beating Hearns, Duran, Benitez and Hagler.
        My question to this do you think those two could have done those numbers with anyone else? The thing is it seems like there is potential to career defining numbers when you fight against Floyd. I think that is still the case right now.

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          #64
          Originally posted by mitruth
          My question to this do you think those two could have done those numbers with anyone else? The thing is it seems like there is potential to career defining numbers when you fight against Floyd. I think that is still the case right now.
          Do I think Oscar/Hatton would do these numbers against other opposition? Umm......yes, that's a bit of a no-brainer. Those two are proven box office draws.

          Career-defining fight wise I do agree with you, though.

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          • cortdawg25
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            #65
            Originally posted by andrewcuff
            good point. I don't understand how floyd fans rave about his titles in 5 different weight divisions (including the ring 147 belt) yet claim he's too small to fight the best welters. He wasn't too small to fight baldomir.

            Bit of a contradiction.
            i don't think floyd fans are saying he is too small to fight a ww....they're simply saying he is not a ww!


            And sine he is most likely a jr ww, a fight with jmm is not out of the question

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              #66
              Originally posted by andrewcuff
              Mike Tyson was a bad guy, Floyd Mayweather is not. He may act like it, but he's not.
              Yep ur correct, how many times was it that he went to jail b4 he was 12yrs old? and biting sumones ears off and anting to eat lennox's children is not exactly a character, thats just mentally challenged..i said "Boxing Character" Not convicted boxers

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                #67
                I guess I just don't understand this whole Floyd is too big for Pacman, Marquez, etc. thing. Just because Floyd proved he can beat bigger fighters doesn't make him any bigger of a man. Just because JMM isn't on Floyd's level doesn't mean they're a different size either. If JMM was so great he could've moved up just like Floyd, but he's only moved up two divisions because he doesn't have the talents that Floyd has.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by cortdawg25
                  i don't think floyd fans are saying he is too small to fight a ww....they're simply saying he is not a ww!


                  And sine he is most likely a jr ww, a fight with jmm is not out of the question
                  The 'he isn't a WW' doesn't really wash when he was Ring Champ at the weight and most Floyd fans are happy to point out he's a 5 weight champ. If you are capable of winning the Ring title, you should not be avoiding the serious challenges at the weight class.

                  Marquez got rocked by a light punching LW, what makes you think a featherweight can effectively fight at LWW at 35 years old?

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by kev183
                    Yep ur correct, how many times was it that he went to jail b4 he was 12yrs old? and biting sumones ears off and anting to eat lennox's children is not exactly a character, thats just mentally challenged..i said "Boxing Character" Not convicted boxers
                    Publicly claiming you're better than Robinson, Leonard and Ali in addition to acting like an arrogant tool doesn't make you a bad boy, it makes you...well...an arrogant tool!

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                    • phoneboothboxer
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by cortdawg25
                      i don't think floyd fans are saying he is too small to fight a ww....they're simply saying he is not a ww!


                      And sine he is most likely a jr ww, a fight with jmm is not out of the question
                      That sounds right to me.

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