OK, let's see...WHO is the sharpest poster here??

[TheGreatA]

No, I dont believe that to be true...Marciano lost to Coley in a publicized tournament as an amateur...if he had turned pro beforehand everybody in the area would have known, including whoever it was that fought Rocky, surely they would have stepped up to say he was already a pro

Wasn't the tournament in March 1948 though? Marciano made his pro debut under the name "Rocky Mack" in 1947.

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...9032&cat=boxer

Marciano's amateur record:

1. April 15, 1946 Henry Lester DQ

AAU Championship Tournament
Portland, Oregon August, 1946

2. unknown KO 1
3. unknown KO 1
4. Joe DeAngelis L 3 August 23, 1946

Golden Gloves Tournament
Lowell, Massachusetts January 1948

5 unknown KO 1
6 unknown KO 1
7 Charlie Mortimer KO 1

Golden Gloves All-East Coast Championships
New York, New York March 1948

8. Coley Wallace L 3 March 1948

9. Bob Girard L 3
10. Joe Sidlaskis KO 1

AAU Olympic tryouts in Boston
11. Fred Fischera KO
12. George McGinnis W 3

[TheGreatA]

Pointless, anyone can google this stuff. FAILED THREAD.

Not so sure about that. A lot of this information can't be found even on the internet.

Try to google all the answers and you'll see.

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[Chase8400]

What headgear?

I asumed the still wore headgear in the ametuers in the 40's. Am I wrong?

Even if they didn't, I'm sure Marciano would have beat the piss out of the guy had he got a lil' experience under his belt.

[TheGreatA]

I asumed the still wore headgear in the ametuers in the 40's. Am I wrong?

Even if they didn't, I'm sure Marciano would have beat the piss out of the guy had he got a lil' experience under his belt.

No headgear in those days.

He would've won in his prime but it's true that he lost to Wallace after making his pro debut.

[Chase8400]

Not so sure about that. A lot of this information can't be found even on the internet.

Try to google all the answers and you'll see.

Don't know allot of the answers, don't know if you can really google all of the answers and don't have the time even if I wanted to answer them all. I think most everyone on here would agree too.

So.............failed thread, even though I do believe the poster has a wealth of past boxing knowledge. I just don't think many of the people in the questions are all that relevant.

Not only that, this should be posted in the boxing history section.

[Chase8400]

No headgear in those days.

He would've won in his prime but it's true that he lost to Wallace after making his pro debut.

Possibly, but it didn't go down as a pro loss because it was not a professional prizefight , which makes the loss irrelevant. Much like Roy Jones' and Joe Calzaghe's ametuer losses. Capiche'?

[BattlingNelson]

I asumed the still wore headgear in the ametuers in the 40's. Am I wrong?

Even if they didn't, I'm sure Marciano would have beat the piss out of the guy had he got a lil' experience under his belt.

Headgear is a new invention (in fights). I think it was in the late eighties or early nineties they became mandatory to help separate the am's from the pro's following fatalities in the pro game.

[TheGreatA]

Possibly, but it didn't go down as a pro loss because it was not a professional prizefight , which makes the loss irrelevant. Much like Roy Jones' and Joe Calzaghe's ametuer losses. Capiche'?

Obviously but the difference is that Marciano fought and lost in the amateurs after he had turned pro. Marciano's 49 straight victories in a row is a legendary record in boxing so when it comes up that he had actually lost a boxing match after turning pro, it's going to be talked about.

Of course it's ultimately meaningless because no records are ever going to be changed nor should they but it's a subject for debate.

I'd imagine that there would be some controversy if Calzaghe had lost amateur fights after turning pro, for example.

[Chase8400]

Headgear is a new invention (in fights). I think it was in the late eighties or early nineties they became mandatory to help separate the am's from the pro's following fatalities in the pro game.

Yea, I should have realized that because I've seen allot of ametuer fights from the 70's olympics. Duh, that's my bad. Thanks for the info however.