Do you think Khan would have won...

[GrizzleBoy]

No Barrera would of lost regardless, because he wouldn't be ahead on the score cards and Barrera is old and slow thus decreasing the chance of a magic 1 hit KO.

lol............you have such awesome logic

Watch the fight. Barerra never backs off from a Khan attack until he gets the accidental butt. He slips and evades and steps back, but only to dodge punches. Only when the clash happens does he start backpeddling to the ropes all the time.

That's the only evidence we have to say the fight would have been different had he not had the cut and I think it's correct. Doesn't mean I think MAB would've won, but there's no way MAB would've been on the ropes in round ONE without that nasty cut.

[S A M U R A I]

Khan was outboxing the **** out of him before the cut anyway, he had the right game plan, and he stuck to it.

The cut happened within the first 2 minutes of the fight. How can you say he was boxing the **** out of him? Khan didn't land any particularly hurtful looking shots.

And regarding game plans, we don't know what Barrera's was because the fight was cut short. It is entirely possible that his plan was to allow Khan to use up as much energy as possible and then take him into deep water in the late rounds. Barrera has done this before, it's not unusual, and it would make sense for a veteran to let the young, energetic fighter burn himself up and then take advantage.

Khan was wobbled by Barrera. He also looked hurt and forced him to clinch at one point.

I'm not saying Barrera would have won, but we never can be sure how it would turn out if Barrera hadn't received such a bad cut. Khan is STILL vulnerable. That's a fact.



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[Sin City]

yes, he still would have won.
Barrera looked older then father time in there yesterday.
it was obvious he no longer had it.

[GrizzleBoy]

The cut happened within the first 2 minutes of the fight. How can you say he was boxing the **** out of him? Khan didn't land any particularly hurtful looking shots.

And regarding game plans, we don't know what Barrera's was because the fight was cut short. It is entirely possible that his plan was to allow Khan to use up as much energy as possible and then take him into deep water in the late rounds. Barrera has done this before, it's not unusual, and it would make sense for a veteran to let the young, energetic fighter burn himself up and then take advantage.

Khan was wobbled by Barrera. He also looked hurt and forced him to clinch at one point.

I'm not saying Barrera would have won, but we never can be sure how it would turn out if Barrera hadn't received such a bad cut. Khan is STILL vulnerable. That's a fact.

Precisely, everyones talking about Khans gameplan, but that's only because he was able to execute it the entire fight.

Barerra had his gameplan thrown out the window within two minutes of the first ding ding ding.

At first he was staying close to Khan and keeping his composure.

As SOON as he got that cut, he was backing off every time Khan moved his arms.

When the shorter smaller fighter has to back away to stay in the fight because he can only see with one eye and his cut is already at the point of costing him the fight within the first round, the fight is over already.

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The cut happened within the first 2 minutes of the fight. How can you say he was boxing the **** out of him? Khan didn't land any particularly hurtful looking shots.

And regarding game plans, we don't know what Barrera's was because the fight was cut short. It is entirely possible that his plan was to allow Khan to use up as much energy as possible and then take him into deep water in the late rounds. Barrera has done this before, it's not unusual, and it would make sense for a veteran to let the young, energetic fighter burn himself up and then take advantage.

Khan was wobbled by Barrera. He also looked hurt and forced him to clinch at one point.

I'm not saying Barrera would have won, but we never can be sure how it would turn out if Barrera hadn't received such a bad cut. Khan is STILL vulnerable. That's a fact.

I never saw Khan wobbled by Barrera, and I've seen the fight twice now (bit hazy the first time lol)

[S A M U R A I]

I never saw Khan wobbled by Barrera, and I've seen the fight twice now (bit hazy the first time lol)

He was hit with a left hook and staggered backwards. I forget which round. He also clinched after being tagged.



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[Memeori]

lol............you have such awesome logic

Watch the fight. Barerra never backs off from a Khan attack until he gets the accidental butt. He slips and evades and steps back, but only to dodge punches. Only when the clash happens does he start backpeddling to the ropes all the time.

That's the only evidence we have to say the fight would have been different had he not had the cut and I think it's correct. Doesn't mean I think MAB would've won, but there's no way MAB would've been on the ropes in round ONE without that nasty cut.

The reason he doesn't back pedal is because he is fresh and ready to go, whereas in the later rounds he wouldn't be and would most likely have to take a shot or two and lay on the ropes because Khan is a fast and accurate (to some degree)

The cut happens he has to protect himself even more (Thus changing into defense mode prematurely), Which I understand but regardless he will still be taking shots and the authority Khan was putting behind the punches would of stopped him in his tracks.

Barrera is 35 years old, He doesn't have the youth of Hatton where he can keep going forward and taking shots with having little effect.

It would of been tougher for Khan I believe but not where Barrera is dodging punches countering at will, and landing Flash KO's throughout the whole fight.

It's just not the same Barrera from 7 years ago that's all.

[Joe2608]

No chance for Barrera, he's way past it and would have got stopped late on.

[GrizzleBoy]

1.The reason he doesn't back pedal is because he is fresh and ready to go, whereas in the later rounds he wouldn't be and would most likely have to take a shot or two and lay on the ropes because Khan is a fast and accurate (to some degree)

2.The cut happens he has to protect himself even more (Thus changing into defense mode prematurely), Which I understand but regardless he will still be taking shots and the authority Khan was putting behind the punches would of stopped him in his tracks.

Barrera is 35 years old, He doesn't have the youth of Hatton where he can keep going forward and taking shots with having little effect.

It would of been tougher for Khan I believe but not where Barrera is dodging punches countering at will, and landing Flash KO's throughout the whole fight.

It's just not the same Barrera from 7 years ago that's all.

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That's just speculation. You never know what would happen. It's just as easy for me to say Barerra would've used his experience to figure out Khans patterns and tie him up on the inside and break his rhythm later on, slowing down the pace.

Either of those things could happen, but we'll never know. I'm sure noone knew Khan would get KO'd in one round at any point of his career. That's what's special about Boxing. You can never really know what would happen.

There's no way we can say "even if Barerra didn't have the cut, he'd still lose", ESPECIALLY when we only saw about a minute and forty/fifty seconds or so of a two eyed Barerra.

All I DO know is that Barerra didn't touch the ropes/run or get attacked with any kind of serious flurry until AFTER he got the cut. That is fact because that is what we can literally see happening.

2. Like I said, that's speculation. Khan could get hit with something or Barerra could use his smarts to screw Khans rhythm. You never know. As for the authority in Khans shots..........I didn't really see any. I thought the same thing Barerra said about his punches while I was watching the fight.

One of the best things Barerra could do against a speedier opponent is get inside, tie Khans arms up and hit on the inside, which he managed to do a few times. With a huge cut on your forehead like the one he had, that's one of his best strategies out of the window, since getting inside usually means leading with your head which would be bound to **** his cut up even more just by touching it/getting it bumped etc.

[Motofan]

Of course Khan would have won.