Abraham sucks imo

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  • mindreader
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    #21
    He's making weight excuses already. He's running away from 160 because he's afraid of Pavlik.

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      #22
      Originally posted by mindreader
      He's making weight excuses already. He's running away from 160 because he's afraid of Pavlik.
      Nah, I think he's afraid of Sergio Mora, so Pavlik will fight Mora instead.

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        #23
        Originally posted by tyde13
        jeff lacy was undefeated till he stepped up a fought a world class fighter.....

        Look who Lacy fought and beat, and look who Abraham did.

        Yeah, sure, they are not Pavlik, but AA pretty much fought all the contenders save Sturm and Pavlik, and he says he wants those fights.

        Whatever he does, he wins. Unlike Lacy.

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        • Mr. Philadel
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          AA paid for those wide punches by gettin' caught with a couple of flush left hooks that seemed to bother him for a second, but nothing major.....besides that, he was fighting his fight and earnin' the rounds......good performance for a guy who had to lose 15 pounds in 7 days to make weight.....props to AA!

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          • TheGreatA
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            #25
            Abraham doesn't "suck" but he has many flaws. A smart boxer would beat him.

            I'm not entirely confident in Pavlik beating him (pretty much 50-50 in my opinion) but Kessler probably would.

            Sturm also has a chance but he (or his promoter) needs to become more confident and take the fight.

            He's making weight excuses already. He's running away from 160 because he's afraid of Pavlik.
            Abraham called out Pavlik after the fight, didn't he? He said making weight didn't bother him because it's what he always does.

            You have no idea what you're talking about, do you?
            Last edited by TheGreatA; 03-15-2009, 01:32 PM.

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            • mindreader
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              #26
              What don't you guys understand about boxing? Pavlik fighting his mandatories,
              then fighting a well known easy fighter (Mora) then one more fight then AA of Felix Sturm. The plan for Pavlik is to fight 3 times this year.

              Pavlik and his team plan on having alot of title defences at 160 there not all going to be world class. Look at RJJ and BHOP

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                #27
                Originally posted by mindreader
                What don't you guys understand about boxing? Pavlik fighting his mandatories,
                then fighting a well known easy fighter (Mora) then one more fight then AA of Felix Sturm. The plan for Pavlik is to fight 3 times this year.

                Pavlik and his team plan on having alot of title defences at 160 there not all going to be world class. Look at RJJ and BHOP

                Technically AA is too.

                As fans it doesn't do us any good though.

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                • street bully
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                  #28
                  Abraham needs to move up to 168 right now. I have been trumpeting for him to beat Kelly Pavlik for a while, and from last nights outing it looked to me that Abe is killing himself to make 160. As of right now I do not think he can beat Pavlik at 160, but at 168 he would murder Pavlik.

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                  • motomambo
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                    #29
                    I think AA has somewhat limited defensive skills. His defense consists of going into the old turtle shell routine every 20 seconds or so. Then he comes out throwing wide punches and leaving himself pretty open to anything straight. Another thing he does is lunge forward which is always a recipe for getting hit. Simon didn't take any advantage of those things but a better boxer would. I agree that the MW division right now is kinda weak.

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                    • pesticid
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                      #30
                      Funny thing though, whoever stays in front of him when he throws those wide punches they don't dare to counter much. Pavlik can't back away like Simon, Pavlik will stand in there trying to cover up and he'll get flatten out.

                      Pavlik is a very good fighter, but his offense is his defense and when Arthur goes on a spurt for 30 secs Kelly will stand in there trying to cover and his guard is not very tights, and that's where he goes down and stays down.

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