Abraham sucks imo

[johnm is...]

I think he's pretty overrated on these boards. But that's nothing new. I definitely wouldn't say he "sucks". But I think Pavlik beats him, and does so easily. Hopefully we'll get to find out.

[The Hammer]

but the middleweight division sucks

YOU suck.

Abraham doesn't...

I just watched the fight, and he wasn't as sharp, strong and confident as usual. He appeared to be seriously weight-drained.

I bet he won't be fighting at middleweight much longer, if at all.

[DarchinyFAN]

YOU suck.

Abraham doesn't...

I just watched the fight, and he wasn't as sharp, strong and confident as usual. He appeared to be seriously weight-drained.

I bet he won't be fighting at middleweight much longer, if at all.

Unfortunatly someone told me, that he wants to fight Pavlik at MW.
Personally I think it would be better for both men to fight at 168 or atleast a catchweight.

[Sutekh uvdabrix]

I think he's pretty overrated on these boards. But that's nothing new. I definitely wouldn't say he "sucks". But I think Pavlik beats him, and does so easily. Hopefully we'll get to find out.

yeah I mean of course he doesnt "suck" persay

but the way people make him out to be and what he really is is more than a huge stretch

[BattlingNelson]

YOU suck.

Abraham doesn't...

I just watched the fight, and he wasn't as sharp, strong and confident as usual. He appeared to be seriously weight-drained.

I bet he won't be fighting at middleweight much longer, if at all.

AA said that the shedding of 8 kilos in 2 weeks didn't affect his performance, but he still acknowledges that he has to move up soon. A Pavlik fight must come soon if it shall be at 160. AA also said that that he'd be ready for Pavlik in supermiddleweight also.

[a-raines21]

AA said that the shedding of 8 kilos in 2 weeks didn't affect his performance, but he still acknowledges that he has to move up soon. A Pavlik fight must come soon if it shall be at 160. AA also said that that he'd be ready for Pavlik in supermiddleweight also.

u dont understand how a fighter can be weight drained.... its like they try to squeez in a bunch of work in a small period of time, instead of putting in more work and starting early

[Steak]

Maybe so but the top 3 consist of very good fighters. There seem to be a gulf in class between them and the rest.

wait, whos the third guy out of Pavlik and Abraham?

imo, if youre comparing the middleweight division to the rest of boxing, it does kind of suck. its just a bad division, plain and simple.

Abraham looks awful against fighters who smartly pressure him and try to get around his guard. he obviously has a lot of flaws. whats his saving grace? well, in terms of power hes got to be in the top 5 p4p in boxing today. he has some nasty KOs, and him hitting his opponent with his 30 second flurries sometimes legitimately wins him the round because of it.

I dont buy the 'weight drain' excuse. he looked just as bad against Elvin Ayala, and people only dont remember that because he knocked his block off in the last round. and Ayala...aint that great. hes David Banks level, or lower so since he lost to him twice.

[BattlingNelson]

wait, whos the third guy out of Pavlik and Abraham?

imo, if youre comparing the middleweight division to the rest of boxing, it does kind of suck. its just a bad division, plain and simple.

Abraham looks awful against fighters who smartly pressure him and try to get around his guard. he obviously has a lot of flaws. whats his saving grace? well, in terms of power hes got to be in the top 5 p4p in boxing today. he has some nasty KOs, and him hitting his opponent with his 30 second flurries sometimes legitimately wins him the round because of it.

I dont buy the 'weight drain' excuse. he looked just as bad against Elvin Ayala, and people only dont remember that because he knocked his block off in the last round. and Ayala...aint that great. hes David Banks level, or lower so since he lost to him twice.

Felix Stum is the third guy. As I've said earlier I find AA to be overrated on NSB. IMO it's just as true that Sturm is underrated. He's such a skilled fighter with a p4p top 3 jab.

[pesticid]

The guy barely gets hit, Abraham that is. One of the tightest guards of all time.

[small_warrior]

yes he sucks so much, that a puncher could not knock him out even with a broken jaw, he sucks so much that he moved up and kicked mirandas as worse than pavlik. And miranda was considered like a monster after the banks knockout. Sure he has flaws, like a suspect stamina but too say he sucks is bull****