Whats the most important part of a fighters legacy

[Edward Hitler]

After a few years of hatton dribbling about p4p and calzaghe retiring with a 0 i started to think in 20 years when ppl look back whats gonna give said fighter a bigger legacy been p4p #1 at one point or another, holding a belt for years and years, holding all the belts in the division for a few years, retiring undefeated having faught the best or holding titles at a couple of weight divisions. personally i dont think years down the line ppl are gonna say he was p4p king for 4 years maybe the 0 gives a fighter a big rep like marciano but im gonna go with holding all the belts for a few years i think been the undisputed champ for a long time would give u the better rep years down the line

[MANGLER]

Quality of comp. Not just fought, but victorious against imo.

[Edward Hitler]

to be honest i think tere all good for the history books lol but to be fair most ppl who hit p4p #1 are usually champions anyway but still think been undisputed king of the division would look nicer

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

Quality of comp. Not just fought, but victorious against imo.

Agree.

Quality Compettiton, wins and how you won or lost against good comp.

O can care less for a fighting retiring undefeted, P4P its about opinions, so in reality it means ****!!!!!!!!!!!

[strugler]

Willingness to be great,trying to do something that was never been done., ofcourse winning is very important too.

[Steak]

the problem with P4P lists is that they are partly popularity lists. Not that the guys on the top dont deserve it necessarily...but let me put it this way.

Erik Morales, as far as I know, was never p4p #1. hell, I dont think he was ever rated that highly, actually. and yet most people would agree he was overall better than Pac.

and then look at Pavlik or Margarito being in the middle of the p4p list. people would look back at that and laugh. most of us are laughing right now.

p4p lists can be deceiving, is all Im saying.
more than anything, its who you beat. and being undisputed champ is a must in the world of worthless alphabet belts, and means the most out of the choices above.

[Edward Hitler]

the problem with P4P lists is that they are partly popularity lists. Not that the guys on the top dont deserve it necessarily...but let me put it this way.

Erik Morales, as far as I know, was never p4p #1. hell, I dont think he was ever rated that highly, actually. and yet most people would agree he was overall better than Pac.

and then look at Pavlik or Margarito being in the middle of the p4p list. people would look back at that and laugh. most of us are laughing right now.

p4p lists can be deceiving, is all Im saying.
more than anything, its who you beat. and being undisputed champ is a must in the world of worthless alphabet belts, and means the most out of the choices above.

i no what you mean p4p dont add up to me but the amount of belts definatly spoils boxing i do think but to hold them all for years means u have to have faught the divisions best anyway surely because the other top fighters would get shots at the belts anyway holding just 1 belt dont mean much but to hold every belt for a 3-4 years surely makes u a great champion

[Miburo]

Being undisputed champion at one or two weights for many years tends to weigh heavily in boxing history for whatever reason, probably more so from the 1970s up until the present. Duran and Hagler were both of this type.

[The_Visitation]

I went with the flow for being undisputed champ for 3+ years, but certainly holding 2 belts for 6+ is adequate for ATG status as well. The second might even be harder, as that's a far longer time-frame for a good challenger or three to get established in the division.

p4p #1 is just an opinion piece, although you do need to do something in 'legacy' terms to get it! The '0' depends to a large extent how big the number before it is and, particularly, on the quality of opponents beaten but I agree that compared with belts it isn't really that important. I think a loss to followed by a revenge win over an elite class opponent is actually valued as highly in 'legacy' terms.