How many people think Pavlik..

[Rubber Duck]

Is being sheltered a little to much... and when will ever see if hes the real thing?

[Dan...]

I don't know about that. I think we have seen what Pavlik is. He is a tough and determined but limited guy that happens to be the best fighter is what is an unbelievably awful division. Seriously, I don't think ppl truly understand just how **** 160 is right now.

[KJB]

He is the Middleweight Champion of the World, homie. He destroyed Edison Miranda to get his shot, KOed the reigning, undefeated champion, beat him in the obligatory rematch by wide UD, smashed his first mandatory in three one sided rounds.
Ring a bell?
Sure he is gonna take some less than mega fights, but Rubio was a legit top ten fighter and a mandatory challenger. Its not like there is a whole army of John Duddys out there.

[Deja_Vous]

Is being sheltered a little to much... and when will ever see if hes the real thing?

KOing Taylor proved he's the real thing...that's more than AA has ever done..however..his latest fights and future plans have hurt his cred severely.

[Darkstar]

He is the Middleweight Champion of the World, homie. He destroyed Edison Miranda to get his shot, KOed the reigning, undefeated champion, beat him in the obligatory rematch by wide UD, smashed his first mandatory in three one sided rounds.
Ring a bell?
Sure he is gonna take some less than mega fights, but Rubio was a legit top ten fighter and a mandatory challenger. Its not like there is a whole army of John Duddys out there.

Exactly. Add to the fact hes only 26.

[Sam D. Menace]

I don't know about that. I think we have seen what Pavlik is. He is a tough and determined but limited guy that happens to be the best fighter is what is an unbelievably awful division. Seriously, I don't think ppl truly understand just how **** 160 is right now.

i dont think people realise just how **** BOXING is right now
every division is weak as hell

[PAC-BOY]

He is the Middleweight Champion of the World, homie. He destroyed Edison Miranda to get his shot, KOed the reigning, undefeated champion, beat him in the obligatory rematch by wide UD, smashed his first mandatory in three one sided rounds.
Ring a bell?
Sure he is gonna take some less than mega fights, but Rubio was a legit top ten fighter and a mandatory challenger. Its not like there is a whole army of John Duddys out there.

No but there is AA. Everyone wants that fight. He so predictable. Trust me his stock gonna drop soon.

[Dan...]

Exactly. Add to the fact hes only 26.

How do you think Kelly's longvity will be? I can't see it being too great to be honest. The way the kid fights he takes a lot of shots, and there is no other way he could really fight to be successful. I think he needs to make the most of the next 4-5 years.

[chucklesmofo]

i believe he puts on a show every time except for the hopkins fight and is a great offensive boxer... my answer is no

[Dan...]

i dont think people realise just how **** BOXING is right now
every division is weak as hell

I certainly don't agree with that. I think there are too many weight classes, which dilutes the talent pool a fair bit, but there are still a lot of great fighters out there who are good to watch. But 160 is definately up there as one of the weakest along with HW and Cruiser right now I think.