..American Robberies...

[THe TRiNiTY]

martinez cintron was ****ed up but to some extent it can be justified with incompetence
cj vs juarez was fine i had it a draw myself
but what about casamayor vs santacruz can anyone explain or justify that ****? i mean not one but all the judges there had to be a fix in there

Yeah, I agree that it ******. However, both fighters are pretty far removed from this country. So, it's more of a promotional thing, and that DEF. happens everywhere. Nonetheless, I think that homecooking happens everywhere. What can you do?

Nonetheless, very ****ty call.

[Testdead]

America has some terrible referee`s and judges BUT in Britisher land the Jamie Moore fight the Reid/Ottke ref was hired as a judge.

America is the worst but not by that much.

[THe TRiNiTY]

America has some terrible referee`s and judges BUT in Britisher land the Jamie Moore fight the Reid/Ottke ref was hired as a judge.

America is the worst but not by that much.

Did Germany get nuked?

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

I don't think that you can say Juarez vs John was a robbery. I had John winning but it was closer than people thought and there were some very tough rounds to score.

[SickmyDuck]

What are you talking? I hear American posters complaining about bad decisions in the US all the time, I mean Holyfield was the American Champion who got the draw against Lennox, fans complained regardless of their origin.

Please read what i posted again.

I said when some American posters.

There are sensibile people and then there are fcuking morons.

Thanks for wasting my time.

[THe TRiNiTY]

I don't think that you can say Juarez vs John was a robbery. I had John winning but it was closer than people thought and there were some very tough rounds to score.

Realistically, however, CERTAIN close fights can still be robberies.

If a guy one the fight by one round, but the judges would have NEVER given him the fight to begin with, he's getting robbed.

It's rare, but that fight seems to have that feel. He could have KO'd Juarez, would have got a 10-8 round at the most.

I, by the way, don't see the fight that close. I can remember thinking that John had won 5 of the first 6, and then AT LEAST 3 of the last six, probably 4. Making him the winner by 116-112. Possibly 117-111.

[dans]

Cintron had absolutely no business winning that fight. The part that pissed me off most was when he was crying about the draw.

John won, but I can handle a draw with that one. As Lampley said "As draw's go, maybe not that bad"

Germany is the worst. Actually I don't trust the results of any fight in Eastern Europe.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Realistically, however, CERTAIN close fights can still be robberies.

If a guy one the fight by one round, but the judges would have NEVER given him the fight to begin with, he's getting robbed.

It's rare, but that fight seems to have that feel. He could have KO'd Juarez, would have got a 10-8 round at the most.

I, by the way, don't see the fight that close. I can remember thinking that John had won 5 of the first 6, and then AT LEAST 3 of the last six, probably 4. Making him the winner by 116-112. Possibly 117-111.

You do realize that makes no sense, right? How do you know where or how the judges are going to judge the fight?

It was close, again I think John won but Rocky fought very well in the first 3-4 rounds, faded in the middle of the fight and then came on strong at the end.

A robbery is when there is no doubt who won the fight and I just don't get that with the Juarez fight.

[BattlingNelson]

Star fighters gets protected when they fight at home. That goes for DLH (vs. Sturm), Foreman (vs. Schulz), Bute (vs. Andrade), Khan (vs. Kristjansen), Ottke (vs. Reid).

Regarding star fighters it's probably quite even.

[1SILVA]

Is it fair to say that with current fights like Chris John/Rocky Juarez and Sergio Martinez/Kermit Cintron being called DRAWS when the guy closer related to the country probably should have lost, that America doesn't really stand on steady ground when it complains of other countries being biased?

I'm not saying that American does it most, or that other countries don't do it most. What I am saying is that it happens here, A LOT.

For the record, I know Cintron wasn't born in America. However, he lives here, speaks better English than Spanish and considers himself American and you all know it.

Nonetheless, vote. Discuss.

Also, a note. With other countries, we often times have to hear what happened. We don't get the fights from over there, like they seem to get fights from these parts. Fans on that side of the pond, have more visual aid. Just throwing that out there.

I was shocked that the Golden Boy actually lost that decision to Trinidad. I never thought De La Hoya would ever lose a close decision. He did get lucky on a couple of decisions(Whitaker and Sturm) that he definitely did not deserve