Andy Lee vs Kirkland: who wins

**The Gambler1981** · 03-09-2009, 03:15 AM

Kirkland by way of malicious pummeling.

To expand Andy Lee is a Manny Steward fighter which means he has like no infighting game and I see no way that Lee can keep his distance for the whole fight.

**-Swizzy-** · 03-09-2009, 03:24 AM

Kirkland by late stoppage. Andy Lee would probably out box Kirkland for the first couple of rounds but then he would probably tank from Kirkland's constant pressure and the fight would end in a late stoppage.

If Andy Lee didn't have stamina issues, he would probably decision Kirkland.

**The Gambler1981** · 03-09-2009, 03:28 AM

Originally posted by kswizzy99

Kirkland by late stoppage. Andy Lee would probably out box Kirkland for the first couple of rounds but then he would probably tank from Kirkland's constant pressure and the fight would end in a late stoppage.

If Andy Lee didn't have stamina issues, he would probably decision Kirkland.

I also do not think he has the mentality to just outbox someone for 12 rounds. I think that Kirkland can be outboxed, I just do not see Andy Lee as a fighter that can do the job though.

Dzinziruk, Martinez and probably Spinks whould be all be tough matchups for Kirkland stylewise.

**KJB** · 03-09-2009, 03:28 AM

Honestly, who even knows how good Andy Lee is?
We know he beat Angulo in the amateurs. We know Manny Steward called him an "ATG" fighter and said he could beat any MW in the world. We also know he managed to gas out and get stopped by Vera.
Andy Lee might actually turn out to be the goods, who knows.

**Silencers** · 03-09-2009, 03:51 AM

Right now I think Kirkland stops Lee, Lee needs to improve a lot of things, among them is controlling distance, he seemed to do a better job of it in his last fight but he wasn't fighting anybody too dangerous, at distance, Lee is a dangerous guy but he has pretty much no inside fighting skills and isn't too good at tying up, that plus his inability to control distance would lead to him losing to Kirkland.

**!! Shawn** · 03-09-2009, 04:32 AM

Originally posted by Silencers

Right now I think Kirkland stops Lee, Lee needs to improve a lot of things, among them is controlling distance, he seemed to do a better job of it in his last fight but he wasn't fighting anybody too dangerous, at distance, Lee is a dangerous guy but he has pretty much no inside fighting skills and isn't too good at tying up, that plus his inability to control distance would lead to him losing to Kirkland.

I think that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard you say. Kirkland is an accident waiting to happen. The kid doesn't have an ounce of skill in his entire body, he doesn't have an ounce of defense in his entire body, he doesn't have an ounce of intelligence in his entire body.

I don't think his chin is as great as people have made it out to be.

All the kid has going for him is strength, and reckless aggression. His stamina is not the great, his power is not that great, his speed is okay, his footwork is okay.

This kid is an accident waiting to happen. He is going to get Khaned by the first live dog they throw him in there with.

I expected Joel Julio to be that dog, but it was apparent from the first bell that he was in there to survive, and to get a paycheck, and not to win.

Throw Kirkland in there with a guy that can not only ****, but is an accurate sharp puncher like Lee, and Kirkland will crumble, no ifs about it. Its the end of the road for him.

For what he has to work with hes done alright for himself, but unfortunately, hes about reached his maximum potential.

Ive got Lee winning by an early KO walking Kirkland into a right uppercut left hand combination.

**Silencers** · 03-09-2009, 04:45 AM

Originally posted by !! Shawn

I think that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard you say. Kirkland is an accident waiting to happen. The kid doesn't have an ounce of skill in his entire body, he doesn't have an ounce of defense in his entire body, he doesn't have an ounce of intelligence in his entire body.

I don't think his chin is as great as people have made it out to be.

All the kid has going for him is strength, and reckless aggression. His stamina is not the great, his power is not that great, his speed is okay, his footwork is okay.

This kid is an accident waiting to happen. He is going to get Khaned by the first live dog they throw him in there with.

I expected Joel Julio to be that dog, but it was apparent from the first bell that he was in there to survive, and to get a paycheck, and not to win.

Throw Kirkland in there with a guy that can not only ****, but is an accurate sharp puncher like Lee, and Kirkland will crumble, no ifs about it. Its the end of the road for him.

For what he has to work with hes done alright for himself, but unfortunately, hes about reached his maximum potential.

Ive got Lee winning by an early KO walking Kirkland into a right uppercut left hand combination.

All I can say to that is, Kirkland is better than you think he is. He's not the most intelligent or most skilled guy out there but he's definitely better than you think he is.

**alza1988** · 03-09-2009, 05:14 AM

Lee

**Sparked_1985** · 03-09-2009, 06:43 AM

Lee is pretty big. But as has been said, he has no inside game. Either do loads of fighters though.

Lee really needs to KO Vera, even if it is a foregone conclusion.

Andy Lee vs Kirkland: who wins