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  • BoxYoMama
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    #21
    Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
    or maybe.......

    after oscar and ricky......jmm is NOW the biggest fight available?

    if floyd comes out of retirement , jmm will be thrown to the side again.

    if floyd doesn't , jmm will get his 3rd chance.



    jmm-pac 3 is not even signed yet. leave your excuses 'til then.
    lol. you made that sound like JMM is Manny's booty call. Poor JMM he must feel use.

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    • pistol whip
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      #22
      Originally posted by Uncle Ruckus
      yeah who had no power and absolutely no back up plan. diaz aint even a complete fighter and he was able to hurt marquez and almost take him out.
      say what you want but the only reason pacman wants marquez now is because roach saw how easily marquez was stunned against a guy with no power. i like marquez i just think roach knows what he's doing. they will not put manny against a guy they think he cant beat, they have said it all along.

      No power? He knocked out Arcalino Fritas a guy who had only been knocked out once in 40+ professional fights and that was against Diego Corrales who was one of the hardest punchers in the lightweight division.


      Im not saying he's Mike tyson but he isn't Pauli Malinaggi either.

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      • VERDUGO
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        #23
        Originally posted by pistol whip
        No power? He knocked out Arcalino Fritas a guy who had only been knocked out once in 40+ professional fights and that was against Diego Corrales who was one of the hardest punchers in the lightweight division.


        Im not saying he's Mike tyson but he isn't Pauli Malinaggi either.
        Semi retired Freitas wasn't knocked out.
        He quit!

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        • loui_ludwig
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          #24
          Originally posted by KennyWeldon
          Freddie Roach is a very intelligent trainer and he saw the Diaz/Marquez fight...

          Diaz was punishing Marquez from the opening bell, and nearly stopped him in the 2nd round. And everybody knows Diaz has no power whatsoever. Of course JMM had a great victory because his experience kicked in and started sharp shooting young Diaz with clean counters until he wore him out and finished him in the 9th.

          Think about it people Pacman is known to only fight guys who he has advantage over, old, weight drained, past prime fighters im sure Roach saw all the signs that say Marquez is past it and they all of a sudden want Marquez after avoiding him and jumping weight class after weight class to get away from Marquez.
          Yeah, whatever.

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          • Alibata
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            #25
            Originally posted by KennyWeldon
            i can't believe how blind people are. did you not watch the diaz vs marquez fight? that speaks for itself why all of a sudden pacquiao wants marquez, they saw marquez hurt by a guy with no power. they have been avoiding marquez for a while and out of nowhere they come out and say they wanna fight him? dont make sense, yeah marquez k.o diaz but he struggled. that fight should have not been that close and diaz was on his way to a victory had he not been dropped. Pacman is not as brave as people think he is they saw something in that fight and thats why they want Marquez
            Yeah idiot, im sure Roach and Pac watched the fight and thought that JUAN DIAZ shook JMM so he must be weak and ready for the taking. WHO THINKS LIKE THAT!!!! You must be projecting something in your own characteristic that your imagination can lead you to a very weird conclusion about things...

            Here are some facts:
            JMM fought chris john and avoided Pacquiao the first time-fact..

            Pacquiao has fought JMM 2x already and beat him once - fact

            Pacquiao is in his 3rd fight after his last fight with JMM and 2 have been againts DLH and Hatton - fact

            DLH by any imagination was considered riskier than any fight Manny coulda had at the time including JMM - fact - nobody thought he was going to win.

            beating Hatton is a bigger accomplishment than JMM who he has already beat - fact

            Hatton is a riskier fight than JMM as it is a new experience for Pac - fact

            How is Pacquiao only choosing fighters he knows he can beat when 2 of the 3 fights he is took or is taking after JMM are fights that he has a bigger chance at losing specially when he fought againts DLH and nobody thought pac could win.
            Last edited by Alibata; 03-07-2009, 07:06 PM.

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            • Left Hook Tua
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              #26
              Originally posted by BoxYoMama
              lol. you made that sound like JMM is Manny's booty call. Poor JMM he must feel use.
              it's boxing economics.

              people wanted an immediate rematch. arum didn't want it. he felt you have to let the fans wait a little bit to make the fight even bigger.

              the 3rd fight will put jmm at a disadvantage because 1. he's a year older and 2. it'll probably be at 140 instead of 130 or even 135 BUT......

              after pac beat delahoya and assuming he beats hatton along with jmm beating casamayor and diaz......the 3rd fight will be HUGE!

              both will gain more monetarily from that wait , though obviously jmm would be at a disadvantage in the 3rd bout imo.

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              • AztecWanker
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                #27
                I was thinking the same thing. JMM should be thankful that the big left hook that Diaz hurt him with early on wasn't thrown by Hatton or Pacquiao.

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                • BoxYoMama
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                  it's boxing economics.

                  people wanted an immediate rematch. arum didn't want it. he felt you have to let the fans wait a little bit to make the fight even bigger.

                  the 3rd fight will put jmm at a disadvantage because 1. he's a year older and 2. it'll probably be at 140 instead of 130 or even 135 BUT......

                  after pac beat delahoya and assuming he beats hatton along with jmm beating casamayor and diaz......the 3rd fight will be HUGE!

                  both will gain more monetarily from that wait , though obviously jmm would be at a disadvantage in the 3rd bout imo.
                  I just don't see JMM winning against Pacquiao @ 140. I could be wrong but if JMM wants to sustain a little pride to his country men then he should just forget about Manny because I picture Manny burying his head in the canvas @ 140.

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                  • Dave Rado
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by KennyWeldon
                    i can't believe how blind people are. did you not watch the diaz vs marquez fight? that speaks for itself why all of a sudden pacquiao wants marquez, they saw marquez hurt by a guy with no power. they have been avoiding marquez for a while and out of nowhere they come out and say they wanna fight him? dont make sense, yeah marquez k.o diaz but he struggled. that fight should have not been that close and diaz was on his way to a victory had he not been dropped. Pacman is not as brave as people think he is they saw something in that fight and thats why they want Marquez
                    You're such a hater it's hilarious. Pacqiao fought Marquez only a year ago. Immediately afterwards he said he would be willing to fight Marquez again, but wanted to fight some other fighters first, so the fact that he recently reiterated that he would be willing to fight Marquez again is not a change of tune but merely restating what he stated a year ago. Since then he has fought De La Hoya, who everyone thought would kill him, and is about to fight Hatton, for a guaranteed $12 million plus half the PPV. And you call that ducking Marquez?

                    Yet after their first fight in 2004, Marquez did outright turn down a rematch with Pacquiao. But you think it was Pacquiao who was doing the ducking? Don't you realise how ridiculous you sound?

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                    • Titing Kabayo
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by BoxYoMama
                      I just don't see JMM winning against Pacquiao @ 140. I could be wrong but if JMM wants to sustain a little pride to his country men then he should just forget about Manny because I picture Manny burying his head in the canvas @ 140.
                      I can't say it better myself.. Amen

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