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  • Shaun Oliver
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    #21
    victor ortiz will break into the p4p rankings first

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    • a-raines21
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      #22
      Originally posted by 2501
      Even though he's tasted the canvas more than Kirkland, his offensive attributes are incredible. I have this su****ion that he relaxes his defensive because of the quality of his opposition. I'm sure when he faces championship quality opposition, his defense will be tighter. He slips and ducks punches a lot too.

      Kirkland on the other hand, is a straight up pressure fighter who's defense is his offense. He has been hit a lot in his past fights. Even against a slow punching Vera who telegraphs his punches, he was getting hit cleanly.
      Kirland and Angulo are guys I can see in the top 10, but not in the top 3.
      although what u are saying is true, its pretty clear that you forgot about marvin hagler, who also had poor defense, but didnt fail to make all p4p lists. you also forgot about roy jones (who is far more skilled than kirlkland no doubt) who defense was offese..... we all saw what happened the first time roy got hit flushed...

      my point is what kirkland does works. we will just have to wait n see what happens.....

      daniel jacobs will probably make the list first to answer the thread starters question

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      • 2501
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        #23
        Originally posted by a-raines21
        although what u are saying is true, its pretty clear that you forgot about marvin hagler, who also had poor defense, but didnt fail to make all p4p lists. you also forgot about roy jones (who is far more skilled than kirlkland no doubt) who defense was offese..... we all saw what happened the first time roy got hit flushed...

        my point is what kirkland does works. we will just have to wait n see what happens.....

        daniel jacobs will probably make the list first to answer the thread starters question
        I understand what you're saying, and I agree to a certain extent, but the skill/class level between Hagler/Jones and Kirkland is very apparent. Another aspect also is patience. Kirkland would much rather overwhelm with power than place his punches methodically.

        Kirkland will have the same issues that Angulo will experience when he faces a great boxer. I'm kind of hoping they both get thrown in with a slickster so that IF they lose, they lose now instead of when they're hype is at a peak and they will be written off because of their loss.

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        • VirusTI
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          #24
          Korobov

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          • pistol whip
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            #25
            I think Andre Ward is gonna make a big splash sometime this year in the Super MW Division.

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            • Mr. Fantastic
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              #26
              I'm going with Gambo and Ortiz. JML is already a champion and if he keeps winning in good fashion, then he should definitely hit P4P rankings.

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              • FreshPrince
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                #27
                Juanma
                Gamboa
                Juanma
                Ortiz
                Juanma
                Ward
                Jacobs
                Kirkland

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                • DarchinyFAN
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                  #28
                  Lopez doesnt qualify he is a titlist.

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                  • KJB
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                    #29
                    Abner Mares, Jorge Linares or Timothy Bradley.

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                    • KJB
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by DarchinyFAN
                      Lopez doesnt qualify he is a titlist.
                      Whatever, those "titles" are BS anyway. Israel Vazquez is the Champion, Juanma is a semi proven contender at best.

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