Chris John Wants Rocky Juarez Rematch in Los Angeles

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  • ringsidemike
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    #31
    Actually, it sounded like HBO is the one pushing for the rematch... It would probably stand on it's own as a main event on BAD.

    My prediction, Juarez wants Houston, John wants LA. They compromise and fight in San Antonio. LMAO

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    • Pullcounter
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      #32
      Originally posted by ringsidemike
      Actually, it sounded like HBO is the one pushing for the rematch... It would probably stand on it's own as a main event on BAD.

      My prediction, Juarez wants Houston, John wants LA. They compromise and fight in San Antonio. LMAO
      HBO knows pac will retire soon and they need someone to represent asians

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      • MR.PLANAS
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        #33
        I think John won the fight 115-113 giving Rocky the benefit of a very close round 8, it could have easily been 116-112 since close rounds are usually given to te champ, a win is a win and I think Rocky had a local gift decision. Mid part of that fight the crowd was dead quiet ,Rocky was getting clearly outboxed and the rounds that Rocky won besides the last one were all very close rounds.

        John should take this fight in Indonesia the hell with Rocky, this guy is demanding to fight in his terms as if he were the champ.

        John did a decent job but he is no international sensation.

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        • jemmychan
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          #34
          Originally posted by ringsidemike
          A draw decision was far from a "robbery." The MAJORITY of ringside observers had Rocky winning. From close vantage, the body shots were much more dramatic than the jabs. Rocky outlanded John in bodyshots about 70-7. But he didnt deserve a draw? c'mon.

          As for wanting "neutral" judges, wtf? The judges were neutral, only one was from near Houston. The referee is from Dallas and IMO, John should have been given a warning for holding in the 11th and possibly a point deduction for the same foul in the 12th. But Cole never said anything. Without the excessive holding, Juarez probably scores a knockdown and wins.

          There is no argument that the location had a factor in the decision with regards to scoring.

          However, I do agree that Juarez doesnt win outside of Houston, and I think the bigger factor is John's health. He was VERY sick just a week before the bout, and this most likely contributed to his late round demise. John should move on to bigger fights and Juarez should beat Luevano then challenge Raffy Marquez or Vasquez.
          How can You said it is neutral judges and refree? Did You realise the fight between Indonesian boxer fight agains American boxer and all of judges and refree all American and You call it neutral ????????? What happened with one new mexico judge? Why in the last minutes texas boxing commision swap him with another American? Will Rocky Juarez accepted match in Indonesia with all
          Indonesian judges and refree?

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            #35
            Originally posted by jemmychan
            How can You said it is neutral judges and refree? Did You realise the fight between Indonesian boxer fight agains American boxer and all of judges and refree all American and You call it neutral ????????? What happened with one new mexico judge? Why in the last minutes texas boxing commision swap him with another American? Will Rocky Juarez accepted match in Indonesia with all
            Indonesian judges and refree?
            Not to mention Lawrence Cole is 1 of the worst, most blatantly biased referees of all time. You see how many times he grabbed John's arm when it was Juarez initiating clinches to keep the fight at close range??

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            • ringsidemike
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              #36
              LMAO at comparison of Indonesian judges to American judges. Neutral means not American?? too funny. When Rocky fought Chelo Diaz and Zahir, it was all judges and referee from Houston. That was not neutral. Having judges from Arizona and Ohio makes it much more "neutral". I guess it's just a matter of perspective..

              And bigger LMAO at Cole's "grabbing" John's arm. He did this from the outset in round 1. He does this in every fight, it's actually a good refereeing style. Good thing he didnt talk to Juarez and tell him the scores. It was CLEARLY John who initiated tie-ups and holding. He stated before the fight, and enacted it as he had said, that he would box at range and avoid fighting close. Why would Rocky hold when his best strategy was to land hooks to the body on the inside?

              You have very biased eyes.

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              • giacomino
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                #37
                Always thought John was overrated, but I have to give him props for being willing to come back to the U.S. to beat Juarez again. Shows he's got guts.
                He won the first fight, although I thought it was close. Juarez is better than most of John's opposition, but he's certainly no Vasquez, Caballero, Linares, JuanMa, etc., the best of the 122-130 weight classes. I'm guessing John will outpoint Juarez in the 116-112, 118-110 range in the rematch. Then maybe he'll turns his eyes toward better opposition

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by shadeyfizzle
                  Not to mention Lawrence Cole is 1 of the worst, most blatantly biased referees of all time. You see how many times he grabbed John's arm when it was Juarez initiating clinches to keep the fight at close range??
                  To be fair, he did that to whoever was closest to him. Normally it was John, but he did it to Juarez when his arm was out. It's a horrible way to break them up though.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by ringsidemike
                    LMAO at comparison of Indonesian judges to American judges. Neutral means not American?? too funny. When Rocky fought Chelo Diaz and Zahir, it was all judges and referee from Houston. That was not neutral. Having judges from Arizona and Ohio makes it much more "neutral". I guess it's just a matter of perspective..

                    And bigger LMAO at Cole's "grabbing" John's arm. He did this from the outset in round 1. He does this in every fight, it's actually a good refereeing style. Good thing he didnt talk to Juarez and tell him the scores. It was CLEARLY John who initiated tie-ups and holding. He stated before the fight, and enacted it as he had said, that he would box at range and avoid fighting close. Why would Rocky hold when his best strategy was to land hooks to the body on the inside?

                    You have very biased eyes.
                    If American judges better than judges from any other countries, they should score win to Chris John not a draw.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by ringsidemike
                      And bigger LMAO at Cole's "grabbing" John's arm. He did this from the outset in round 1. He does this in every fight, it's actually a good refereeing style. Good thing he didnt talk to Juarez and tell him the scores. It was CLEARLY John who initiated tie-ups and holding. He stated before the fight, and enacted it as he had said, that he would box at range and avoid fighting close. Why would Rocky hold when his best strategy was to land hooks to the body on the inside?

                      You have very biased eyes.
                      LMAO at Cole having a good refereeing style. Are we talking about the same Lawrence Cole that was suspended from reffing in the U.S. competely for a year for being biased. Have you ever seen him ref other fights?? He does not ref the same way or grab arms in fights not involving asian fighters. And it was Juarez initiating the clinches a-la ricky hatton. John had very frustrating movement and could not keep the fight in close distance.... so once he did...he would wrap up John to keep him from going anywhere while he punched away on the other side.

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