Why All The Hate For Zab?

[marooncat1600]

you're right it wouldnt happen since pac would duck judah

[DLT]

boxing is and should be a sport of warriors going at it in the ring, but outside the ring these warriors should be classy role modles such as cotto, mosley, ward, and so on and so on. Nobody wants to cheer for absolutly piece of trash thug like judah from his street fight to thoes fouls against floyd to all his **** talking that he never backs up. no he should never get a title shot again ever. boxing needs more cotto's mosley's and wards's not more ****** judah's. we want boxing to become a domanant american watched sport like it once was, judah crying in the ring every fight with his ****** grill isnt going to do it. GO TO JAIL WHERE YOU BELONG JUDAH, mabey you can win a fight there, dought it though....

I totaly disagree with that. I think what makes boxing great is that it has all things. We have the SRL's of the world and we also have the James Toney's of the world. Boxing is the #1 sport that your supposed to talk trash in and say that no one can *** wit you. I always said that I wish other sports were like boxing. Wouldnt you love for Lebron right now to say that "Kobe is alright but Im clearly better then him and it will show every time we face eachother". Wouldnt you love to hear Wade call Lebron overrated? Then the next time they face each other it would be the most watched game in NBA history. Thats what makes boxing great. I dont think everyone has to be humble. I love the characters in boxing

[KJB]

Well thats fine for the past but not the future. Are you saying that there is no way he can be the champ at 140 or beat guys like Pac, JMM, Campbell, Hatton, or Bradley? Again, all those guys would lose those same fights he did most likely.

All those dudes beat him, at this point. Ill take bets if it happens.

[Guest]

Well he is definatly capable of laying duds but that was when his confidence was at an all time low after those recent beat downs he suffered. I also remember him looking like garbage against Pineda and then KTFO of Spinks

He again took two tries to do that. He got schooled in the first fight.

The man has nine lives and you're asking me to give him a 10th.

[THRILLA77]

zab is the **** *** u guys!!!!!!

[KJB]

I totaly disagree with that. I think what makes boxing great is that it has all things. We have the SRL's of the world and we also have the James Toney's of the world. Boxing is the #1 sport that your supposed to talk trash in and say that no one can *** wit you. I always said that I wish other sports were like boxing. Wouldnt you love for Lebron right now to say that "Kobe is alright but Im clearly better then him and it will show every time we face eachother". Wouldnt you love to hear Wade call Lebron overrated? Then the next time they face each other it would be the most watched game in NBA history. Thats what makes boxing great. I dont think everyone has to be humble. I love the characters in boxing

Also characters are all well and good. I dont think anyone would take all the characters out of boxing.
Zab Judah is trash. And I dont say that cause he if from the hood or lacks education, I say it because he is absolutely classless garbage.

[KJB]

zab is the **** *** u guys!!!!!!

LOL I was waiting for you to show up, bro.

[Dorruel]

I couldnt beleieve all the hate I saw in the other threads. If you want to hate him as a person then thats fine. If you want to hate him as a fighter then thats fine. However, I totally disagree with the fact that he shouldnt get another shot at a big time fight.

I say this because I think people are looking at this too much in black & white. By that I mean they just look at him losing and they automaticaly say he's a scrub that doesnt ever deserve to get a title shot again but look at who he fought. People make it sound like he lost to bums who were smaller then him. Zab's biggest problem is that him & his team have too much heart. They shouldnt have took half those fights. Even before all those fights, pretty much everyone picked against Zab but now you clown him for not winning. Was he really going to beat a Mayweather, Cotto, or Clottey? Even Baldy was a good fighter when Zab fought him.

We all have admit that Zab shouldnt even be at WW. He looks like a little boy next to those guys. I just think everyone on this board is smoking if they beleive that just because he lost those fights means that he cant beat the boys at 140 or shouldnt get a title shot at 140. Name one single guy at LW or 140 who was going to beat Floyd, Cotto, or Clottey? I bet none of them wouldve beat Baldy either. Zab is like Floyd with his weight. He claims he couldnt make 140 anymore but yet he looked super small at WW. It was just a total mismatch. Basicaly what Im saying is that I still wouldnt be shocked one bit to see Zab KTF out of Campbell, KTF out of Hatton, beat Pac, and so on. Until I see him get whipped by someone his size who isnt the best fighter in the world like Floyd then Im not going to totally call him a bum like you guys.

Dont get me wrong, he is a clown alot of times. He fights dumb and shouldve been got rid of his father. He is a big time under acheiver in some ways but in other ways he isnt. I totally disagree with people who call him an under acheiver because of his recent losses. Again, he just shouldnt have been fighting those guys. Alot of people clown him about being a 4 round fighter but no one even called him that until he lost to Baldy. He went 12 hard rounds twice with Spinks. Maybe he's a 4 round fighter just because thats how long it takes for the bigger guys to enforce there will on him. Maybe his skill can hang with them for 4 rounds but after that there size is just too much for him. That wont happened at 140. I just think that HBO should give him the Campbell fight because I bet anything this whole board would change when they again see how Zab looks at 140 against guys his own size. Then everyone would want to see him fight JMM, Pac, Hatton, and Bradley. It would change in a snap. I think he deserves one more shot but only at 140. If its at WW then he's setting himself up to lose. He "may" can beat Quintana but thats about it, so why even fight him?

Besides, am I the only one who thinks Zab-Campbell is super sexy? I swear I do. I cant beleive so many on here threw that fight away. That seems like one of those special kind of matchups that you never thought would happened because they were far apart in divisions not too long ago. Then you think about Zab vs JMM, Bradley, Pac, Hatton, and it gets even sexier. I mean Floyd is a beast but he could fight at MW 5 times right now and lose 4 of them. Does that mean that he is an underacheiving clown who should never again get a title fight at the lower weights or should fight on HBO? Does that mean that he would automaticaly still lose at WW or 140? No! Give Zab one shot against a 140 pounder and then you will know for a fact if he's an underacheiving, 4 round fighting bum, or if he's a guy who was just facing top tier fighters who were too big for him anyways. He deserves that shot and I think if he got it then he may surprise all of you

great post i 120% agree with you. Zab is another force at 140

[DLT]

If he beats someone good, he can fight them, but until he does, to me, why should he get a shot?

Giving him a shot is just like giving Holyfield a shot. Yeah, I used to be good at the division, I should fight for a championship.

He wins against a couple of good guys and he can then try to fight the kingpins.

They had to. Why shouldn't he?

When you lose, you step back for a couple of fights. Get back in line so to speak.

Come on now, you know that he is not Holyfield and he's not even Vargas "yet". Either way thats why Im saying lets give him that one last shot in his real division and they we can finaly know where he stands. He might be done and then we can be rid of him for good but he might also look like a beast again at 140. The reason why he deserves that look is because he's the kind of guy who if he does look good again then he will make for sexy fights because of his style, explosion, and skill

[Tha_Greatest]

again, read my thread. Who was going to beat those guys that he lost too? You can count on one hand who is capable of beating those guys and thats if Zab was near there size. He's not. Those guys were all good and too big for him. The only guy who wasnt too big was the best P4P fighter in the world. Im saying that pretty much everyone loses atleast 3 of those fights and probably all 4. Definatly no one below WW can beat those guys

for gods sake, he lost to carlos baldomir and he looked normal against a soda vendor named ernest johnson, for gods sake , i am actually speaking about a fighter named ernest johnson because zab is fighting like a bum,

if it werent for zab, i wouldnt ever have heard of ernest johnson in my life, zab should go all the way down to fight at 122, maybe then he can fight someone and actually have a chance at winning

zab is a bum(if floyd has fought you-like zab,gatti,bruseles-then you must be a bum