A couple things I noticed re-watching Marquez vs. Diaz

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  • ßringer
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    A couple things I noticed re-watching Marquez vs. Diaz

    1.) Jim Lampley seemed irritated when Max Kellerman compared the fight to Corrales/Castillo. Mentioning that that fight was on their competitor's network

    2.) Lampley also says that Corrales/Castillo occured in 2003, when it actually occured in 2005. A fight that epic, it seems odd to think a professional boxing broadcaster wouldn't remember it. Maybe Lamps doesn't watch Showtime fights?

    3.) Lampley and Steward were in the tank for Juan Diaz. They always got excited when Diaz threw anything, even when he was clearly missing. And rarely ever did them mention Marquez's amazing counterpunching skills, or the adjustment he made mid-fight.

    4.) Harold Lederman still only scores rounds for activity, and not accuracy.

    5.) Kellerman made a point to bring Corrales/Castillo up yet again when the post fight interviews were concluded, this time on a live mic, so the whole crowd could hear him. I agreed with what he had to say.

    6.) Bernard Hopkins was going nuts in the crowd, yet again. It's funny for me to see Hopkins front row, going nuts, at all of these fights. He's a character for sure, cracks me up. He also patted his hand on Diaz's shoulder when Diaz seemed disappointed inthe loss, as if to say "it's okay". I thought that was cool.

    7.) The replay of the first knockdown shows some amazing slow motion footage of Marquez's ability to adjust a punch, mid-combination. He's about to throw the left uppercut, and he notices that Diaz is out of range, so he pulls it right back, and turns it into a jab, which sets up a nice right hand afterward. The entire replay is a perfect example of how deadly Marquez's accuracy can be.

    8.) Emmanuel Steward is such a fence-rider. He'll pick a guy he likes, in this case, Diaz, and talk him up nonstop. Then the opponet, in this case Marquez, lands some nice shots of his own, and all of a sudden, it's him he likes. At least Kellerman and Lampley let you know who they like immediately, and don't switch sides 15 times in a fight.

    9.) I still miss Larry Merchant.
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    One thing I noticed is...Marquez will get left on the ground by someone with power in their left hook...As for his performance..HOF........

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      #3
      Originally posted by The_Bringer
      1.) Jim Lampley seemed irritated when Max Kellerman compared the fight to Corrales/Castillo. Mentioning that that fight was on their competitor's network

      2.) Lampley also says that Corrales/Castillo occured in 2003, when it actually occured in 2005. A fight that epic, it seems odd to think a professional boxing broadcaster wouldn't remember it. Maybe Lamps doesn't watch Showtime fights?

      3.) Lampley and Steward were in the tank for Juan Diaz. They always got excited when Diaz threw anything, even when he was clearly missing. And rarely ever did them mention Marquez's amazing counterpunching skills, or the adjustment he made mid-fight.

      4.) Harold Lederman still only scores rounds for activity, and not accuracy.

      5.) Kellerman made a point to bring Corrales/Castillo up yet again when the post fight interviews were concluded, this time on a live mic, so the whole crowd could hear him. I agreed with what he had to say.

      6.) Bernard Hopkins was going nuts in the crowd, yet again. It's funny for me to see Hopkins front row, going nuts, at all of these fights. He's a character for sure, cracks me up. He also patted his hand on Diaz's shoulder when Diaz seemed disappointed inthe loss, as if to say "it's okay". I thought that was cool.

      7.) The replay of the first knockdown shows some amazing slow motion footage of Marquez's ability to adjust a punch, mid-combination. He's about to throw the left uppercut, and he notices that Diaz is out of range, so he pulls it right back, and turns it into a jab, which sets up a nice right hand afterward. The entire replay is a perfect example of how deadly Marquez's accuracy can be.

      8.) Emmanuel Steward is such a fence-rider. He'll pick a guy he likes, in this case, Diaz, and talk him up nonstop. Then the opponet, in this case Marquez, lands some nice shots of his own, and all of a sudden, it's him he likes. At least Kellerman and Lampley let you know who they like immediately, and don't switch sides 15 times in a fight.

      9.) I still miss Larry Merchant.
      I agree with all of that, especially #3, #4 and #8. Good observations.

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        #4
        Originally posted by The_Bringer
        7.) The replay of the first knockdown shows some amazing slow motion footage of Marquez's ability to adjust a punch, mid-combination. He's about to throw the left uppercut, and he notices that Diaz is out of range, so he pulls it right back, and turns it into a jab, which sets up a nice right hand afterward. The entire replay is a perfect example of how deadly Marquez's accuracy can be.

        9.) I still miss Larry Merchant.
        Agreed completely. Marquez's technical skill is amazing, probably better than anyone else in the sport right now. I was especially impressed with how he finished Diaz off. He had his man hurt and just stood back and threw well placed, accurate, hard punches including a vicious body shot which led to the uppercut knock out. A lot like a lion going in for the kill on wounded prey.

        And yes, I don't care what anyone says, Larry brought something to the fights that no one else will be able to duplicate. Say what you will but Larry never bull****ted and you could always count on hearing one of his classic quotes.

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          Yeah I noticed that stuff too, especially the combo where Marquez adjusted mid-punch.

          I was also a bit irritated at how the commentators were all on Diaz's nuts and almost pretended not to see Marquez's effectiveness in the fight. It is so obvious who HBO wants to promote in "their" fights......I would have been willing to bet everything that if that fight went the distance and Marquez had won every round from 8 on, that Marquez would still have lost on the cards by like 5 points or caught a bad split decision loss at best.

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            #6
            Originally posted by The_Bringer
            1.) Jim Lampley seemed irritated when Max Kellerman compared the fight to Corrales/Castillo. Mentioning that that fight was on their competitor's network

            2.) Lampley also says that Corrales/Castillo occured in 2003, when it actually occured in 2005. A fight that epic, it seems odd to think a professional boxing broadcaster wouldn't remember it. Maybe Lamps doesn't watch Showtime fights?

            3.) Lampley and Steward were in the tank for Juan Diaz. They always got excited when Diaz threw anything, even when he was clearly missing. And rarely ever did them mention Marquez's amazing counterpunching skills, or the adjustment he made mid-fight.

            4.) Harold Lederman still only scores rounds for activity, and not accuracy.

            5.) Kellerman made a point to bring Corrales/Castillo up yet again when the post fight interviews were concluded, this time on a live mic, so the whole crowd could hear him. I agreed with what he had to say.

            6.) Bernard Hopkins was going nuts in the crowd, yet again. It's funny for me to see Hopkins front row, going nuts, at all of these fights. He's a character for sure, cracks me up. He also patted his hand on Diaz's shoulder when Diaz seemed disappointed inthe loss, as if to say "it's okay". I thought that was cool.

            7.) The replay of the first knockdown shows some amazing slow motion footage of Marquez's ability to adjust a punch, mid-combination. He's about to throw the left uppercut, and he notices that Diaz is out of range, so he pulls it right back, and turns it into a jab, which sets up a nice right hand afterward. The entire replay is a perfect example of how deadly Marquez's accuracy can be.

            8.) Emmanuel Steward is such a fence-rider. He'll pick a guy he likes, in this case, Diaz, and talk him up nonstop. Then the opponet, in this case Marquez, lands some nice shots of his own, and all of a sudden, it's him he likes. At least Kellerman and Lampley let you know who they like immediately, and don't switch sides 15 times in a fight.

            9.) I still miss Larry Merchant.
            yea b-hop is all class..and yea jmm adjusted his punches to the angle juan was falling...it was art

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              #7
              Originally posted by Scott9945
              I agree with all of that, especially #3, #4 and #8. Good observations.
              Yep, i agree with all of them too, great job!

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                Originally posted by mathed
                Yeah I noticed that stuff too, especially the combo where Marquez adjusted mid-punch.

                I was also a bit irritated at how the commentators were all on Diaz's nuts and almost pretended not to see Marquez's effectiveness in the fight. It is so obvious who HBO wants to promote in "their" fights......I would have been willing to bet everything that if that fight went the distance and Marquez had won every round from 8 on, that Marquez would still have lost on the cards by like 5 points or caught a bad split decision loss at best.
                I remember thinking that if the fight went the distance, Diaz could likely win it myself. I expected the knockout for Marquez though, I predicted it in the 10th, and he surprised me when he almost got it in the 8th.

                The commentators on HBO are such biased ****s. The only one I can tolerate is Merchant. He's an occasional ****rider as well, mostly with Mosley and Pacquiao, but he doesn't shove it down your throat. He'll shut up and let us just enjoy it for a minute or two, without reminding you of "his guy's" greatness.

                And Lampley not remembering when Corrales/Castillo happened pissed me off. It may be just a small thing, and I may be blowing it out of proportion. But come the hell on already. You're a professional sportscaster who has chose to be a boxing analyst. How can you not remember the year in which the fight that some have labelled "the greatest fight of all time" happened?

                I'm beginning to wonder if Lampley even likes boxing. I'm starting to think he's just a charasmatic talking head for any HBO house fighter. Just look at the way he's abandoned everybody he talked up in the past, Jermain Taylor is a perfect example to start with.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by larryx
                  yea b-hop is all class..and yea jmm adjusted his punches to the angle juan was falling...it was art
                  Hopkins was also doing something with Marquez, after Marquez's post fight interview. I couldn't see it all, because Kellerman was blocking the shot. But it looked like Hopkins was joking with Marquez about all the titles he had on, he was smiling ear-to-ear and laughing. Marquez seemed amused as well, though I'm not sure if that was because Hopkins genuinely made him laugh, or that Hopkins is a Golden Boy Co-Promoter.

                  Also, what was up with all the Oscar shirts? Everybody on Marquez's team had one almost. ****, I haven't seen that many Oscar shirts at any Oscar fight.

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                    #10
                    As a Pacfan I only noticed Max Kellerman's ****riding of Marquez.
                    About 5 years ago he was so into Marquez and even belittled Pac's accomplishments and proceeded to predict a win for JMM in their first fight. After so many of Pac successes thru the years he has yet to utter his name, until about 3 months ago when Pac demolished Oscar De la Hoya comparing Pac with Henry A. (He was forced to I guess)

                    He probably felt this is his opportunity to get his Marquez nutsucking back.

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