Chris John was robbed big time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Alibata
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    #21
    Originally posted by The Gambler1981
    Punchstat numbers are not how you score a fight. They should be disregarded.

    Also scoring on tv and live at the arena are vastly different. HTOWN was there live~.
    We get every angle of the fight on T.V... Chris John won that fight... Juarez threw harder more noticeable punches but Chris john's shots were also clearly affecting Juarez and busting up his face..Hid punches may have not shown as effective live as they did on tv,

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    • The Gambler1981
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      #22
      Originally posted by Alibata
      We get every angle of the fight on T.V... Chris John won that fight... Juarez threw harder more noticeable punches but Chris john's shots were also clearly affecting Juarez and busting up his face..Hid punches may have not shown as effective live as they did on tv,
      I have already said I have no beef with John winning. Jaurez face was pretty marked up, but to me it was John who looked worse for ware at the end of the fight if the fight went on longer it would have been curtains for John (imo).

      I thought it was a close competitive fight that could have gone either way depending on if you liked John's bunches of punches or Jaurez's higher quality shots that were fewer and far between.

      I favored Jaurez in rounds 1,2,9,11,12 and round 4 7,8 were all fairly close depending on what you prefer.

      To be called a robbery to me you have to win 9 or 10 rounds clearly, John did not do that in my eyes. Like I said it was a close fight in my eyes and a draw was fair, but I have no problem with you saying you think John won.

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      • HappySlip
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        #23
        Originally posted by HTownTexan
        Yeah, but being there you could really hear and feel the punches that Rocky waslanding... I could see why the judges would be inclined to give a round to Juarez....


        He had a puffed up bruised left eye I think... But there were some headbutts along the way that they showed replays of during the rounds....
        Errrr.. Scoring a fight base on the sound of the punches is not right imo... Even when john looked horrible in the last two rounds cant make you win the whole fight... A good measure would be a knockdown which didnt happen or being wobbled, which didnt happened...

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          #24
          Originally posted by HappySlip
          Errrr.. Scoring a fight base on the sound of the punches is not right imo... Even when john looked horrible in the last two rounds cant make you win the whole fight... A good measure would be a knockdown which didnt happen or being wobbled, which didnt happened...
          I know that is not how you score a fight.... But Rocky's jab was looking good... And did you see the body shots?? If you say that John landed the harder shots that is a lie.... I was aboput 150 ft away from the ring and you could hear the thud and see Chris John in pain... I think there were 2 or 3 times that Chris got REALLY hurt by those shots....


          And yes I am talking about the whole fight....
          Chris John would run and pitty patt, then when Rocky got in he would hold... Rock would hit on the break because he wanted to fight...John was really uncomfortable in there with Rocky... Rocky cut the ring off, body shots, theWAY WAY WAY harder punches....

          Rocky was NEVER noticeably hurt... There were a few times that John was....

          I really didnt thikn there was anyway of Rock losing....

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            #25
            Originally posted by warp1432
            John was doing very nice work on the inside that would maybe be hard to see outside. He provided very nice angles.

            The ref in that fight was terrible though. Not really in bias, but he would always slap the hand down and pull them apart and the fighter getting pulled (normally John) would have the other person (normally juarez) throw a punch on the break. It was terrible reffering.
            Not terrible reffing. John holds behind the head, the ref pulls his glove off. It wasn't a break, it was the alternative to deducting points for holding. Its the same thing they were doing to Ali in the THRILLA in MANILA.

            If anything I would have liked to see some points deducted because of how ofter John was holding behind the head.

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            • Pullcounter
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              #26
              Originally posted by LilGizmo562
              I also believe he was robbed, Chris John clearly won that fight.
              i agree, they robbed chris john...

              jmm/diaz was closer than john/juarez until the KO.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Pullcounter
                i agree, they robbed chris john...

                jmm/diaz was closer than john/juarez until the KO.

                Rocky did the MORE EFFECTIVE punching... he cut the ring off... he noticeably hurt John throughout the fight.....

                John landed nothing hard...... Alot of jabs and pitty patts....

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Johnnybur
                  Anybody with any kind of boxing sense knows that John controlled that whole fight except for maybe the last two rounds. Juarez's face says it all. Chris John had a little cut and that was about it. John landed over 100 more punches than Rocky.
                  no it wasnt the fight ended a draw just as I seen it. the only fighter who got hurt throughout the match was Chris John. He was given a gift

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                  • Ryn0
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by HTownTexan
                    Rocky did the MORE EFFECTIVE punching... he cut the ring off... he noticeably hurt John throughout the fight.....

                    John landed nothing hard...... Alot of jabs and pitty patts....
                    When your outnumbered 10 to 1 chances are your wrong.

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                    • -Boxzilla-
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                      #30
                      john was pretty clearly robbed last nite ... i had it 8rds to 4 ...

                      i didnt like the reffing either ... but johns camp seemed like pure class and made no mention of it ...

                      john vs. jmm there was no robbery that fight was real close ....
                      Last edited by -Boxzilla-; 03-01-2009, 02:51 PM.

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