Chris John, Rock Juarez Battle To a Disputed Draw

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  • FaustoGeraci
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    #91
    Originally posted by Perro
    It was all tied up when the KO happened, but I could see a decision in favor or Diaz if it had gone the distance. I don't know how Rocky pulled out the draw. That's Texas for you.
    It was not on the same level as the robbery Whitaker received when he made Chavez look like an amateur, but it was still wrong.

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    • poeticlsykuac
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      #92
      I guess he knows how it feels now to be robbed just as JMM was. At least he didn't get a bogus loss like JMM did.

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      • Steak
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        #93
        this was really not THAT bad of a decision. Its like yall dont count body punches. Juarez won a few of the early rounds and won the late ones pretty big too.

        honestly, I did have John winning, 7 rounds to 5. but it was a damn close fight. John won a lot of the middle rounds, but Juarez's punches were doing more damage in many rounds, and John looked real shaky in the 11th.

        saying that John 'schooled' Juarez is laughable. outworking? sure, I can take that. but overall Juarez was landing the harder, cleaner shots.
        he just didnt land enough of them in many rounds.

        a rematch is in order.

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        • The Gambler1981
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          #94
          On the plus side Oscar said HBO was very interesting in making John-Jaurez II, so this can get settled once and for all.

          I will say what I have been saying since the fight ended, it was a tough hard fought fight that was actually really close. Thinking John won is fine, but he in no way got robbed. I have read quite a few reports on this fight, and not a single one used the word dominating to describe John's preformance (or any synonym for dominate).

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            #95
            Originally posted by The Gambler1981
            On the plus side Oscar said HBO was very interesting in making John-Jaurez II, so this can get settled once and for all.

            I will say what I have been saying since the fight ended, it was a tough hard fought fight that was actually really close. Thinking John won is fine, but he in no way got robbed. I have read quite a few reports on this fight, and not a single one used the word dominating to describe John's preformance (or any synonym for dominate).
            Do You think Rocky Juarez still deserved another shot for a title fight after he fails a couple of times?
            I think its better for Chris John to start a title unification.

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            • The Gambler1981
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              #96
              Originally posted by jemmychan
              Do You think Rocky Juarez still deserved another shot for a title fight after he fails a couple of times?
              I think its better for Chris John to start a title unification.
              To me he did not beat Jaurez, so yes he has a lot to prove against him. He can probably fight better aswell, and easily outbox him.

              The other title holders at 126 are pretty much a joke atleast Cruz and Larios are not better then Jaurez, one of these 2 will get beat by Gamoba before the year is done (Larios could easily get beat by Aoh, I guess Aoh-John would be an alright fight, but you think Aoh would want to get a defense or two before taking on John), and I doubt Gamboa's team would want to see Chris John so soon. Luevano is an alright fighter, but I do not know how thier styles would mesh, it could end up as a real stinker.

              If he wants to move up to 130, that would be an ok move though. At 126 he should fight Jaurez

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                #97
                Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                To me he did not beat Jaurez, so yes he has a lot to prove against him. He can probably fight better aswell, and easily outbox him.

                The other title holders at 126 are pretty much a joke atleast Cruz and Larios are not better then Jaurez, one of these 2 will get beat by Gamoba before the year is done (Larios could easily get beat by Aoh, I guess Aoh-John would be an alright fight, but you think Aoh would want to get a defense or two before taking on John), and I doubt Gamboa's team would want to see Chris John so soon. Luevano is an alright fighter, but I do not know how thier styles would mesh, it could end up as a real stinker.

                If he wants to move up to 130, that would be an ok move though. At 126 he should fight Jaurez
                You should look around You and start to counting how many people agree and
                disagree with You, if its nearly 50% people agree with You its ok For Rocky Juarez to get another shot, otherwise its time for john to fight another better fighter than rocky.

                I saw Chris John since the first time He become pro after He won a Wushu medal, I know how good He is, and to be honest that's not the best of him when He fight again Rocky Juarez probably he get nervous or He is not fit?

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                • The Gambler1981
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by jemmychan
                  You should look around You and start to counting how many people agree and
                  disagree with You, if its nearly 50% people agree with You its ok For Rocky Juarez to get another shot, otherwise its time for john to fight another better fighter than rocky.

                  I saw Chris John since the first time He become pro after He won a Wushu medal, I know how good He is, and to be honest that's not the best of him when He fight again Rocky Juarez probably he get nervous or He is not fit?
                  I have made my case, I have yet to see someone give me a good rebuttal, let alone you. The majority is not always right, I have read more then a few writers that thought Jaurez won though, thanks for playing.

                  You are obviously a big fan of Chris John, and it fine you think he won. You have Chris John colored glasses on if you think he dominated the fight.

                  Chris John is a great champion do not make excuses for him.

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                  • El Dominicano
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                    #99
                    All I'm gonna say is this Juarez clearly won 1,2 11,12...those are the rouds he CLEARLY won

                    Blame Chris John for giving away the 1st two rounds and taking a beating in the last 2, plus there were some middle rounds that could have gone to Juarez

                    Honestly, finishing strong could really have an affect as to who won

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                      I have made my case, I have yet to see someone give me a good rebuttal, let alone you. The majority is not always right, I have read more then a few writers that thought Jaurez won though, thanks for playing.

                      You are obviously a big fan of Chris John, and it fine you think he won. You have Chris John colored glasses on if you think he dominated the fight.

                      Chris John is a great champion do not make excuses for him.
                      So its either me or you that's need to get of those pair of glasses.

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