who is the bigger coward: Wladimir or Pavlik?

**hammerhiem** · 02-25-2009, 07:44 AM

Neither.

boxing politics my friend, understand it or leave the sport.

**a-raines21** · 02-25-2009, 07:47 AM

pavlik ducking abraham? he calls him out after every fight, in every interview, etc..... wth are u talking about?

**hammerhiem** · 02-25-2009, 07:50 AM

Originally posted by a-raines21

pavlik ducking abraham? he calls him out after every fight, in every interview, etc..... wth are u talking about?

He said he wouldn't fight in Germany.

Big deal, pac wouldn't fight in the UK so they fight in vagas, venue is teh least of the problems.

**lest26** · 02-25-2009, 07:53 AM

i didnt realise the fight between haye and Wlad was off, i dont think Pav is ducking Arthur its probably more to do with money, though Arthur will batter Pavlick, he looked awful against rubio

**The Hammer** · 02-25-2009, 09:01 AM

Wladimir isn't ducking Haye - he's been trying to make the fight but Haye and Booth are difficult to negotiate with.

But as for Pavlik, he should grow a set of balls and stop ducking Abraham.

**a-raines21** · 02-25-2009, 09:04 AM

Originally posted by hammerhiem

He said he wouldn't fight in Germany.

Big deal, pac wouldn't fight in the UK so they fight in vagas, venue is teh least of the problems.

wow.... thanks for the info...... it seems as if the idiots on this forum's sandard of ducking is wayyy too low

**MELLY-MEL...** · 02-25-2009, 09:48 AM

Originally posted by Gene Tunney

Wladimir isn't ducking Haye - he's been trying to make the fight but Haye and Booth are difficult to negotiate with.

But as for Pavlik, he should grow a set of balls and stop ducking Abraham.

what a clown...........pathetic.

**KingTito** · 02-25-2009, 09:51 AM

I doubt either are afraid. There's a lot of negotiating that goes into a fight.

**Tmb04** · 02-25-2009, 09:54 AM

I don't think either are ducking. It is all Politics. But politics aside, Pavlik is the bigger coward.

David Haye isn't even a top HW and until he beats a couple of them and earns a real rank then who gives a **** if he's trashtalking klitschko. **** the most interesting fight. I rather see him beat the **** out of Povetkin or fight Arreola anyday!

Abraham on the other hand is ranked 1 in the world. Had like 8 defenses of his title. Is willing to come to America. And most agree he would beat the **** out of Pavlik worse than B-Hop did. So Abraham deserves a shot unlike Haye.

But ya cant call Pavlik a Coward if it's his promoter that doesnt want the fight. Sure Pavlik can call Abraham out after a win and all. But atleast put forth more effort. Call him out to the press. Talk ****. Listen to your fans. Demand Arum to make it happen. Kelly Pavlik is a coward if he just ignores AA

who is the bigger coward: Wladimir or Pavlik?