Are Floyds hands faster than pacs?

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  • Left Hook Tua
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    #31
    Originally posted by Hook
    Hatton has very underrated decent speed.
    he does. he's pretty quick.

    but the average speed of 140-147 are slower than the average speed of 122-126 guys.

    so even though floyd might look faster than pac he might not be.

    i think pacquiao has faster hands even though floyd is pretty damn fast himself.

    what accentuate's floyd's speed is the speed of his opponents of recent times and at the higher weight classes they're all too slow for floyd.

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    • Pullcounter
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      #32
      Originally posted by Hook
      This thread is about speed not who throws the best combos
      you'd think with that kinda speed he'd be able to land combos no?

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        #33
        Originally posted by Hook
        "floyd is not skilled enough"
        99.9999999999% of the boxers in the world are NOT SKILLED ENOUGH to throw combinations while avoiding being hit.

        what's your point?

        if floyd was skilled enough to do it , then why doesn't he? why does he popshot only?

        not a knock on floyd.

        very few guys are skilled enough to be defensive while on the offensive and be able to avoid punches while throwing combinations themselves.

        guys like ali , robinson and duran can and does and that's what makes those guys special.

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        • El Dominicano
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          #34
          How do we judge them? Their speed at 130 or 135? We haven't seem Pac at 140 and we shouldn't really count the fight at 147 against DLH

          So if we're talkin 130 I'd say Mayweather and I don't think you can debate that. Based on Mayweather vs Tony Pep, Genero, Genera and Chico. Pac only had 1 fight at 135 and even then, watching him demolish Diaz, I'd still say I seen faster hand speed from Mayweather

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            #35
            Originally posted by Pullcounter
            you'd think with that kinda speed he'd be able to land combos no?
            please explain to him that the advantage of having handspeed is to land 2-3 shots on someone while they can only throw one back.

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            • Hook
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              #36
              Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
              99.9999999999% of the boxers in the world are NOT SKILLED ENOUGH to throw combinations while avoiding being hit.

              what's your point?

              if floyd was skilled enough to do it , then why doesn't he? why does he popshot only?

              not a knock on floyd.

              very few guys are skilled enough to be defensive while on the offensive and be able to avoid punches while throwing combinations themselves.

              guys like ali , robinson and duran can and does and that's what makes those guys special.
              fair point, but I think you are a little harsh on floyd

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                #37
                Originally posted by Devil Man
                How do we judge them? Their speed at 130 or 135? We haven't seem Pac at 140 and we shouldn't really count the fight at 147 against DLH

                So if we're talkin 130 I'd say Mayweather and I don't think you can debate that. Based on Mayweather vs Tony Pep, Genero, Genera and Chico. Pac only had 1 fight at 135 and even then, watching him demolish Diaz, I'd still say I seen faster hand speed from Mayweather
                Doesn't anyone care about what I have to say!

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Devil Man
                  How do we judge them? Their speed at 130 or 135? We haven't seem Pac at 140 and we shouldn't really count the fight at 147 against DLH

                  So if we're talkin 130 I'd say Mayweather and I don't think you can debate that. Based on Mayweather vs Tony Pep, Genero, Genera and Chico. Pac only had 1 fight at 135 and even then, watching him demolish Diaz, I'd still say I seen faster hand speed from Mayweather
                  which fighters are generally faster lightweights and welterweights or bantamweights and featherweights?

                  floyd is fast but we saw him against 130-147 guys.

                  pacquiao looked fast against 112-130 guys.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Hook
                    fair point, but I think you are a little harsh on floyd
                    i am a little harsh.

                    i'm a floyd hater that's why.

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                    • Hook
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                      i am a little harsh.

                      i'm a floyd hater that's why.
                      just go with your feelings don't fight them

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