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  • Pullcounter
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    #21
    Originally posted by RL_GMA
    I really like Clottey, but his punch output isn't enough to give Cotto any serious problems. Clottey's a stationary fighter and Cotto will move around him and select his shots. Clottey's a good defender also so it may take a few rounds for Cotto to find him. But once he does, he takes Clottey into deep waters.

    Im leaning towards a Cotto decision, but not counting out a stoppage. Don't forget, this will be Clottey's toughest fight to date. Not too sure the same can be said for Cotto, but he'll prepare like it is.
    punch output dont matter... if clottey can make cotto gas himself out like margo did using his defense instead of his chin (like marg), clottey may get the same results.

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    • MR.CHICANITO
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      #22
      Originally posted by KingTito
      I agree. I got Cotto by UD. That would be a really good fight.
      i have joshua clottey pulling off the upset of the year by 12 tko i think it'll be a war while it lasts

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        #23
        You what else Clottey affectively as I seen him do to Margarito, He throws I nice combination, twice upstairs to the head, since Cotto keeps his guard up he will block it, but then Clottey throws down stairs to the body, which Cotto won't block. I think that combination will be very affective for Clottey. Clottey doesn't wear running shoes, he wears boxing shoes!

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          #24
          Originally posted by Pullcounter
          punch output dont matter... if clottey can make cotto gas himself out like margo did using his defense instead of his chin (like marg), clottey may get the same results.
          You bring Marg up like that was a fair fight, the plaster made Cotto gas not the punches he threw. Cotto wears Clottey down in a tactical war, knocks Clottey out with a body shot in round 11.

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          • RL_GMA
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            #25
            Originally posted by Pullcounter
            punch output dont matter... if clottey can make cotto gas himself out like margo did using his defense instead of his chin (like marg), clottey may get the same results.
            You can't compare the 2...

            Considering more than likely Margarito cheated and Cotto still lasted till the 11th round, the fight itself is tainted. We'll never know how Cotto would've been like without the controversy surrounding the 1st fight.

            Cotto's chin is a lot better than what some skeptics make it out to be. He took solid shots from Mosley and Judah and was still able to keep going. The problem with Clottey is he defends more than actually punching. When you fight a guy like Cotto who can both punch and box, and is becoming a better defender, you HAVE to up your offensive game...no questions asked. He can't and won't beat Cotto by waiting for a shot because Cotto himself is a brilliant counter puncher.

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              #26
              Originally posted by BMWM3P
              You bring Marg up like that was a fair fight, the plaster made Cotto gas not the punches he threw. Cotto wears Clottey down in a tactical war, knocks Clottey out with a body shot in round 11.
              you cant prove that margo cheated against cotto. in any case, cotto was winning the figth easily but gassed. if cotto did not gas, he'd have won the fight easily.

              clottey peak-a-boo defense is gonna blunt most of cotto's offense. clottey just got to stay close and force cotto to the ropes and let cotto tire himself out throwing combos.

              if cotto learns from his mistake and potshots, it might be a different story though, as it will be a boring cat and mouse affair.

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                #27
                I dont see how you can say clottey will counter cotto. if anything cotto will counter clottey, cotto is the much better counter puncher imo.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by RL_GMA
                  You can't compare the 2...

                  Considering more than likely Margarito cheated and Cotto still lasted till the 11th round, the fight itself is tainted. We'll never know how Cotto would've been like without the controversy surrounding the 1st fight.
                  yeah, there is taint on that fight, but what wasnt cheating was that cotto gassed and margarito's beard held up.

                  Cotto's chin is a lot better than what some skeptics make it out to be. He took solid shots from Mosley and Judah and was still able to keep going.
                  i'm not questioning cotto's chin, but his stamina. judah wasnt pressuring cotto and mosley wasnt pressuring cotto until late in the fight.

                  The problem with Clottey is he defends more than actually punching. When you fight a guy like Cotto who can both punch and box, and is becoming a better defender, you HAVE to up your offensive game...no questions asked. He can't and won't beat Cotto by waiting for a shot because Cotto himself is a brilliant counter puncher.
                  so what? margo was getting hit more than he was landing and he still beat cotto.

                  yeah cotto can punch and box and he can counterpunch when he's tired, but if clottey can use his defense to walk through cotto's best punches like margo did, that will discourage cotto and if cotto gasses, clottey should be able to beat cotto.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by mickyward5656
                    I dont see how you can say clottey will counter cotto. if anything cotto will counter clottey, cotto is the much better counter puncher imo.
                    clottey cant win by counterpunching cotto, he needs to pressure cotto and force cotto to throw alot of punches to get clottey off him eventually tiring out cotto.

                    cotto is a very solid puncher-boxer, but his stamina imho is his greatest flaw.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Pullcounter
                      yeah, there is taint on that fight, but what wasnt cheating was that cotto gassed and margarito's beard held up.


                      i'm not questioning cotto's chin, but his stamina. judah wasnt pressuring cotto and mosley wasnt pressuring cotto until late in the fight.



                      so what? margo was getting hit more than he was landing and he still beat cotto.

                      yeah cotto can punch and box and he can counterpunch when he's tired, but if clottey can use his defense to walk through cotto's best punches like margo did, that will discourage cotto and if cotto gasses, clottey should be able to beat cotto.
                      But you're kinda comparing Margarito's game plan to what Clottey's would be. Clottey is no where near a pressure fighter. He's going to have to find Cotto to hit him.

                      As far as Cotto's stamina, I think it's fine. When you get hit with bricks, even Chuck Norris is gonna get winded. I've seen no signs prior that Cotto gasses out. Some said he did against Mosley, but he managed to still land the flusher shots on Mosley and kept it movin.

                      It'll be a completely different fight from the Margarito Cotto fight. Clottey can't and won't fight Margarito's style to beat Cotto.

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