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  • MR. NUTHUGGER
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    Mexican fighters on the decline!

    by Tim Starks
    The (unfortunately) unretiring Mexican great Erik Morales had a good point last week: The ranks of Mexican boxing heroes is a little thin. Just as welterweight (147 lbs.) Antonio Margarito had taken the throne with his ultra-macho style, he got busted cheating last month and then knocked out. The Marquez brothers are kind of the last men standing, and neither of them have incited the kind of passion Morales once did and are aging a tad; likewise, Israel Vazquez (122 lbs.) may be forced into retirement by injury. I think if Mexican fans can embrace Mexican-American who fight in a slightly more technical style, Diaz and junior welterweight (147 lbs.) Victor Ortiz could eventually step into the role, and all-Mexican junior middleweight (154 lbs.) Alfredo Angulo has all the qualities Mexican fans love. But just last year, before I got excessively busy in the day job, I was going to write a piece about the way Latin American fighters and European fighters had taken over the ranks of best boxers in the world from African-American fighters. Now, look at the ranks of best boxers in the world and there are a lot fewer Mexicans than there were just in 2008. Given the degree to which Mexican fans have propped up the sport for years, it would be wonderful to see someone captivate them...
  • mrpain81
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    #2
    Ring Magazine Rankings

    Strawweight
    Limit: 105 pounds

    2. Raul Garcia


    Jr. Flyweight
    Limit: 108 pounds


    1. Ulises Solis
    2. Edgar Sosa
    6. Omar Nino


    Flyweight
    Limit: 112 pounds


    9. Hugo Cazares


    Jr. Bantamweight
    Limit: 115 pounds

    2. Fernando Montiel
    3. Cristian Mijares
    8. Jorge Arce


    Bantamweight
    Limit: 118 pounds


    7. Abner Mares


    Jr. Featherweight
    Limit: 122 pounds


    CHAMPION: Israel Vazquez
    1. Rafael Marquez
    5. Daniel Ponce De Leon
    8. Jhonny Gonzalez


    Featherweight
    Limit: 126 pounds


    3. Jorge Solis
    6. Martin Honorio
    7. Oscar Larios
    9. Cristobal Cruz


    Jr. Lightweight
    Limit: 130 pounds


    2. Humberto Soto
    8. Urbano Antillon


    Lightweight
    Limit: 135 pounds


    CHAMPION: Juan Manuel Marquez
    4. Julio Diaz
    5. Antonio Pitalua


    Jr. Welterweight
    Limit: 140 pounds


    ---------------------


    Welterweight
    Limit: 147 pounds


    3. Antonio Margarito


    Jr. Middleweight
    Limit: 154 pounds


    -----------------------------


    Middleweight
    Limit: 160 pounds


    6. David Lopez


    Super Middleweight
    Limit: 168 pounds


    3. Librado Andrade


    Light Heavyweight
    Limit: 175 pounds


    ---------------------------------------------


    Cruiserweight
    Limit: 200 pounds



    -------------------------------------


    Heavyweight
    Limit: none


    -------------------------------------


    Pound For Pound
    All Weights


    2. Juan Manuel Marquez
    4. Israel Vazquez
    6. Rafael Marquez

    -------------------------------------

    17 weight divisions = 170 ranked fighters

    25 of the ranked fighters are from Mexico not counting Mexican-Americans

    14.7% of all the ranked fighters are from Mexico = Mexican boxing is Dead

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      #3
      Originally posted by mrpain81
      Ring Magazine Rankings

      Strawweight
      Limit: 105 pounds

      2. Raul Garcia


      Jr. Flyweight
      Limit: 108 pounds


      1. Ulises Solis
      2. Edgar Sosa
      6. Omar Nino


      Flyweight
      Limit: 112 pounds


      9. Hugo Cazares


      Jr. Bantamweight
      Limit: 115 pounds

      2. Fernando Montiel
      3. Cristian Mijares
      8. Jorge Arce


      Bantamweight
      Limit: 118 pounds


      7. Abner Mares


      Jr. Featherweight
      Limit: 122 pounds


      CHAMPION: Israel Vazquez
      1. Rafael Marquez
      5. Daniel Ponce De Leon
      8. Jhonny Gonzalez


      Featherweight
      Limit: 126 pounds


      3. Jorge Solis
      6. Martin Honorio
      7. Oscar Larios
      9. Cristobal Cruz


      Jr. Lightweight
      Limit: 130 pounds


      2. Humberto Soto
      8. Urbano Antillon


      Lightweight
      Limit: 135 pounds


      CHAMPION: Juan Manuel Marquez
      4. Julio Diaz
      5. Antonio Pitalua


      Jr. Welterweight
      Limit: 140 pounds


      ---------------------


      Welterweight
      Limit: 147 pounds


      3. Antonio Margarito


      Jr. Middleweight
      Limit: 154 pounds


      -----------------------------


      Middleweight
      Limit: 160 pounds


      6. David Lopez


      Super Middleweight
      Limit: 168 pounds


      3. Librado Andrade


      Light Heavyweight
      Limit: 175 pounds


      ---------------------------------------------


      Cruiserweight
      Limit: 200 pounds



      -------------------------------------


      Heavyweight
      Limit: none


      -------------------------------------


      Pound For Pound
      All Weights


      2. Juan Manuel Marquez
      4. Israel Vazquez
      6. Rafael Marquez

      -------------------------------------

      17 weight divisions = 170 ranked fighters

      25 of the ranked fighters are from Mexico not counting Mexican-Americans

      14.7% of all the ranked fighters are from Mexico = Mexican boxing is Dead
      Can you do one for the Philippines

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        #4
        Originally posted by Sugar May Floyd
        Can you do one for the Philippines
        Ring Magazine Rankings

        Strawweight
        Limit: 105 pounds


        4. Florante Condes
        7. Donnie Nietes



        Jr. Flyweight
        Limit: 108 pounds


        5. Juanito Rubillar
        10. Bert Batawang

        Flyweight
        Limit: 112 pounds


        1. Nonito Donaire


        Jr. Bantamweight
        Limit: 115 pounds


        7. Z Gorres

        Bantamweight
        Limit: 118 pounds


        6. Gerry Penalosa



        Jr. Featherweight
        Limit: 122 pounds



        ---------------------------


        Featherweight
        Limit: 126 pounds


        --------------------------


        Jr. Lightweight
        Limit: 130 pounds


        ---------------------------

        Lightweight
        Limit: 135 pounds


        --------------------------


        Jr. Welterweight
        Limit: 140 pounds


        ---------------------


        Welterweight
        Limit: 147 pounds


        5. Manny Pacquiao


        Jr. Middleweight
        Limit: 154 pounds


        -----------------------------


        Middleweight
        Limit: 160 pounds


        ------------------------------


        Super Middleweight
        Limit: 168 pounds


        ---------------------------------


        Light Heavyweight
        Limit: 175 pounds


        ---------------------------------------------


        Cruiserweight
        Limit: 200 pounds



        -------------------------------------


        Heavyweight
        Limit: none


        -------------------------------------


        Pound For Pound
        All Weights


        1. Manny Pacquiao

        -------------------------------------

        17 weight divisions = 170 ranked fighters

        8 of the 170 ranked fighters are from the Philippines

        4.7% of all ranked fighters are from the Philippines

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        • Tha_Greatest
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          #5
          Originally posted by MR. NUTHUGGER
          by Tim Starks
          The (unfortunately) unretiring Mexican great Erik Morales had a good point last week: The ranks of Mexican boxing heroes is a little thin. Just as welterweight (147 lbs.) Antonio Margarito had taken the throne with his ultra-macho style, he got busted cheating last month and then knocked out. The Marquez brothers are kind of the last men standing, and neither of them have incited the kind of passion Morales once did and are aging a tad; likewise, Israel Vazquez (122 lbs.) may be forced into retirement by injury. I think if Mexican fans can embrace Mexican-American who fight in a slightly more technical style, Diaz and junior welterweight (147 lbs.) Victor Ortiz could eventually step into the role, and all-Mexican junior middleweight (154 lbs.) Alfredo Angulo has all the qualities Mexican fans love. But just last year, before I got excessively busy in the day job, I was going to write a piece about the way Latin American fighters and European fighters had taken over the ranks of best boxers in the world from African-American fighters. Now, look at the ranks of best boxers in the world and there are a lot fewer Mexicans than there were just in 2008. Given the degree to which Mexican fans have propped up the sport for years, it would be wonderful to see someone captivate them...
          is phillipino boxing alive compared to mexican boxing
          Last edited by Tha_Greatest; 02-23-2009, 08:16 AM.

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          • Tha_Greatest
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            #6
            Originally posted by mrpain81
            Ring Magazine Rankings

            Strawweight
            Limit: 105 pounds

            2. Raul Garcia


            Jr. Flyweight
            Limit: 108 pounds

            1. Ulises Solis
            2. Edgar Sosa
            6. Omar Nino


            Flyweight
            Limit: 112 pounds

            9. Hugo Cazares


            Jr. Bantamweight
            Limit: 115 pounds

            2. Fernando Montiel
            3. Cristian Mijares
            8. Jorge Arce


            Bantamweight
            Limit: 118 pounds

            7. Abner Mares


            Jr. Featherweight
            Limit: 122 pounds

            CHAMPION: Israel Vazquez
            1. Rafael Marquez
            5. Daniel Ponce De Leon
            8. Jhonny Gonzalez


            Featherweight
            Limit: 126 pounds

            3. Jorge Solis
            6. Martin Honorio
            7. Oscar Larios
            9. Cristobal Cruz


            Jr. Lightweight
            Limit: 130 pounds

            2. Humberto Soto
            8. Urbano Antillon


            Lightweight
            Limit: 135 pounds

            CHAMPION: Juan Manuel Marquez
            4. Julio Diaz
            5. Antonio Pitalua


            Jr. Welterweight
            Limit: 140 pounds

            ---------------------


            Welterweight
            Limit: 147 pounds

            3. Antonio Margarito


            Jr. Middleweight
            Limit: 154 pounds

            -----------------------------


            Middleweight
            Limit: 160 pounds

            6. David Lopez


            Super Middleweight
            Limit: 168 pounds

            3. Librado Andrade


            Light Heavyweight
            Limit: 175 pounds

            ---------------------------------------------


            Cruiserweight
            Limit: 200 pounds


            -------------------------------------


            Heavyweight
            Limit: none

            -------------------------------------


            Pound For Pound
            All Weights

            2. Juan Manuel Marquez
            4. Israel Vazquez
            6. Rafael Marquez

            -------------------------------------

            17 weight divisions = 170 ranked fighters

            25 of the ranked fighters are from Mexico not counting Mexican-Americans

            14.7% of all the ranked fighters are from Mexico = Mexican boxing is Dead
            can you do one for mexican americans

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            • Sugar May Floyd
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              #7
              Originally posted by Tha_Greatest
              can you do one for mexican americans
              You ask for too much

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              • mrpain81
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                #8
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                • Tha_Greatest
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Sugar May Floyd
                  You ask for too much
                  dont feel so bad, i aint askin you, besides, what do you care

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                  • Tha_Greatest
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Sugar May Floyd
                    You ask for too much
                    damn, youre right, i was gonna do one for mexican american fighters and it was too much, **** that, making one for the US is a piece of cake, but not for mexicans and mexican americans

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