Haye's Chin

[Kevin Jesus]

He doesn't have a glass chin you imbecile.

Watch his fights, then watch Khan's.

Now compare the two and tell me his chin is glass.

Didn't Khan only get knocked down against Prescott?

So far, people say Khan has a glass chin based off one single fight against a big puncher which doesn't make sense, and i'm far from a Khan fan.

I mean to my knowledge.

If Khan has been knocked down any other time against another opponent then sorry for this post.

[D-MiZe]

[QUOTE=Kevin Jesus;6261438]

He doesn't have a glass chin you imbecile.

Watch his fights, then watch Khan's.

Now compare the two and tell me his chin is glass.[/QUOTE]

Didn't Khan only get knocked down against Prescott?

So far, people say Khan has a glass chin based off one single fight against a big puncher which doesn't make sense, and i'm far from a Khan fan.

I mean to my knowledge.

If Khan has been knocked down any other time against another opponent then sorry for this post.

Khan got knocked down against Gomez and Limond.

Got knocked down in amateurs too.

[MJ406]

Well Khan's also been down 4 or 5 times for his career right?

[daggum]

Taylor was undisputed because no one actually beat him for those belts; he had to vacate the WBA and was stripped of the IBF.

Same thing with Calzaghe. He had to vacate the IBF. No one beat him for it. So when he beat Kessler it should have been for all four.

If you have three and had to vacate or was stripped of the fourth, why are you not undisputed? No one beat you for that belt.

actually he was stripped and rightfully so for facing manfredo over robert steiglitz.

he didn't have the belt anymore thus he was not undisputed. he had it at one time but he didn't follow the rules so it's not his anymore. he had 3 belts and an invisible 4th belt.

according to you chad dawson who has no belts at all right now just needs the wbo and wba belts and he's undisputed champ.

[RightCross94]

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Didn't Khan only get knocked down against Prescott?

So far, people say Khan has a glass chin based off one single fight against a big puncher which doesn't make sense, and i'm far from a Khan fan.

I mean to my knowledge.

If Khan has been knocked down any other time against another opponent then sorry for this post.

No dude, Khan was down vs Willie Limond and Michael Gomez too

[Shadows]

actually he was stripped and rightfully so for facing manfredo over robert steiglitz.

he didn't have the belt anymore thus he was not undisputed. he had it at one time but he didn't follow the rules so it's not his anymore. he had 3 belts and an invisible 4th belt.

according to you chad dawson who has no belts at all right now just needs the wbo and wba belts and he's undisputed champ.

You could look it at that way, yeah. But in reality, those guys had them all at once, or should have.

[MJ406]

Undisputed

Mormeck was the guy to beat and Haye beat him. Had 3 of the major belts and had beat all the relevant fighters in his division.

He was considered undisputed by the WBA.

Lets see what happens when he fights Valuev, if he's announced as the former undisputed champion of cw division.

that's inconsequential .. I already know that ... Mormeck lost his titles to Bell and won them back. Bell had to vacate his IBF, but was considered undisputed when he added the WBA and WBC to his IBF .. IBF+WBA+WBC=undisputed.

the WBA is the only one that uses the definition of having the WBA + two other major titles equaling undisputed.

I know you responded to the Holyfield + Bell bits .. regarding their undisputed claims but how come you have no response for Tyson having the WBA-WBC and IBF belts and being called undisputed?

already mentioned but same thing with Bernard Hopkins, who had the IBF & WBC belts when he beat Trinidad for the WBA and was called undisputed.

you can say what you want about the WBA's definition of Undisputed

but a majority of the boxing community sees it as having the WBA, WBC and IBF titles

until that definition changes. that's what im going by to refer to a fighter as undisputed or not

call it a technicality but having IBF+WBA+WBC=undisputed.

[j]

i was pretty sure barrett knocked him down, with accumulation not with one single punch - that is why some haye supporters think he wasnt down. he definitely was rocked to be sure in that fight.

anyways, as i have been saying for years, "glass chin" is BS phrase when talking about pro fighters.

damn near everyone gets "caught." glass chin is derogitory IMO. i would only think of something like that if a fighter went down in almost every single fight, and stayed down.

people who get up usually dont have "glass chins," but have simply been caught at the right moment, or right place, by a solid punch.

so, really, arguing over how many times a fighter has been down is rediculous. extremely rediculous.

[Davros?]

yes the wba. only the wba. not by people who know what the word undisputed means. boxing fans are easily fooled. explains mayweather's ppv numbers.

Haye was undisputed champion, Bell became undisputed champion but was stripped of the IBF title for fighting Mormeck, Mormeck then won and held the WBC WBA and Ring magazine titles, Haye then beat Mormeck and then went on to capture Enzo's paper belt, Cunningham was won a paper belt. Almost every one who holds 3 belts and the ring title is considered undisputed champion.

[Mr. Philadel]

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