was Gomez a better opponant than Jennings?

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  • HitBattousai
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    Gomez had been sick and still couldn't clinch his right hand(it had been broken in his previous fight) when he fought Cotto. Jennings also was on his bike against Cotto the entire fight and landed nothing of consequence, whereas Gomez tried to go toe-to-toe with him(partially because he wasn't fast enough to box him). Jennings was also stopped completely within Round 5, while Gomez would have continued had the doctor not decided to stop the fight of his own accord in between Rounds 5 and 6, though he probably would have been knocked out a round or two later. That was also, in my opinion, a better, more confident version of Cotto than the one Jennings fought.

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      #12
      Originally posted by HitBattousai
      Gomez had been sick and still couldn't clinch his right hand(it had been broken in his previous fight) when he fought Cotto. Jennings also was on his bike against Cotto the entire fight and landed nothing of consequence, whereas Gomez tried to go toe-to-toe with him(partially because he wasn't fast enough to box him). Jennings was also stopped completely within Round 5, while Gomez would have continued had the doctor not decided to stop the fight of his own accord in between Rounds 5 and 6, though he probably would have been knocked out a round or two later. That was also, in my opinion, a better, more confident version of Cotto than the one Jennings fought.
      Co-sign that.

      If Gomez had been 100% when he faced Cotto this would not even be a debate, because Gomez is a lot tougher than Jennings and would of probably given Cotto a tough fight, albeit he would of more than likely of lost.


      Gomez he is a good guy.

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        #13
        Originally posted by HitBattousai
        Gomez had been sick and still couldn't clinch his right hand(it had been broken in his previous fight) when he fought Cotto. Jennings also was on his bike against Cotto the entire fight and landed nothing of consequence, whereas Gomez tried to go toe-to-toe with him(partially because he wasn't fast enough to box him). Jennings was also stopped completely within Round 5, while Gomez would have continued had the doctor not decided to stop the fight of his own accord in between Rounds 5 and 6, though he probably would have been knocked out a round or two later. That was also, in my opinion, a better, more confident version of Cotto than the one Jennings fought.
        I respect what youve done for us posting the new contender episodes and all, but saying Jennings was stopped more completely than Gomez is just foolish. Jennings was bothered by those huge shots to the body as was Gomez, but Jim Lampley was right saying Gomez was a shell of the person coming into the ring by the 5th round. Alfonso's face was swollen real badly and both of his eyes almost swollen shut...Jennings had a bleeding nose..

        Rewatch the 5th round of both fights (as I just did), Gomez was in no condition to continue. Ill give him one thing though, Gomez has a hell of a heart. I dont find it admirable of Gomez going toe to toe due to his inability of fighting differently, to me it just means he was willing to take more punishment than Jennings. Ive seen Gomez training during the prefight hype on his website and it showed no indication of him being sick or not being able to punch properly. It seems every recap posted on his site is filled with excuses when he lost. Im not at all biased towards Cotto, I even posted on this board that I thought Gomez would give him a good fight.

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          #14
          Regardless of Gomez's condition, it doesn't change the fact that he didn't put up as much a fight as Jennings did.

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            #15
            Ive seen Gomez training during the prefight hype on his website and it showed no indication of him being sick or not being able to punch properly. It seems every recap posted on his site is filled with excuses when he lost.
            If you have been on his on his website, then you have seen the web episodes of the lead up to the Cotto fight correct? was he not in hospital and sick prior to the fight?

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              Gomez has a hell of a heart. Going toe-to-toe was smart but I believe he put up more of a fight.

              I do see that Gomez was in hospital two weeks prior to the fight. Had that not been the case, anything could have happened. Guess we will never know.

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              • HitBattousai
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                Originally posted by beerneer
                I respect what youve done for us posting the new contender episodes and all, but saying Jennings was stopped more completely than Gomez is just foolish. Jennings was bothered by those huge shots to the body as was Gomez, but Jim Lampley was right saying Gomez was a shell of the person coming into the ring by the 5th round. Alfonso's face was swollen real badly and both of his eyes almost swollen shut...Jennings had a bleeding nose..

                Rewatch the 5th round of both fights (as I just did), Gomez was in no condition to continue. Ill give him one thing though, Gomez has a hell of a heart. I dont find it admirable of Gomez going toe to toe due to his inability of fighting differently, to me it just means he was willing to take more punishment than Jennings. Ive seen Gomez training during the prefight hype on his website and it showed no indication of him being sick or not being able to punch properly. It seems every recap posted on his site is filled with excuses when he lost. Im not at all biased towards Cotto, I even posted on this board that I thought Gomez would give him a good fight.
                Re-watch Episode 3 of the Build-Up series for the sickness part. And Gomez didn't want people to know before the fight that his hand still was hurting, but after the fact somebody caught some pre-fight footage where Gomez got a shot to numb his right hand and asked him about it, where he confirmed that he couldn't completely clinch it, and since he's mentioned it in a few interviews. Gomez also, in my opinion, could have continued after Round 5, though like I said the fight would have been stopped in a round or two anyway. He was very tired and beat up at the end of Round 5, but had only been "hurt" by Cotto once in the fight, from a counter Cotto body shot. And Jennings wasn't that badly damaged at the end of the fight because he never tried to engage Cotto and Cotto simply didn't throw that many punches like he did against Gomez. Part of that is because of Jennings being on his bike, but part of it was because Cotto was simply rusty and not quite as confident as the Cotto that fought Gomez. Gomez also slightly wobbled Cotto with a punch in their fight, which was brought up before the Margarito fight to try and demonstrate that Cotto had a weak chin and gave Cotto a fat lip.

                Ultimately both guys got their asses kicked regardless. I don't think had Alfonso been 100% the outcome would have been much different, simply because Cotto was too fast for Gomez and had him outgunned in virtually every department, injury or no. I just think Gomez gave a more genuine effort to win and did slightly better.

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                  #18
                  both guys sux and didnt deserve to fight cotto

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                    Originally posted by P4P GOAT
                    Co-sign that.

                    If Gomez had been 100% when he faced Cotto this would not even be a debate, because Gomez is a lot tougher than Jennings and would of probably given Cotto a tough fight, albeit he would of more than likely of lost.


                    Gomez he is a good guy.

                    LOL if jen was to face gomez jen would win by late TKO or UD

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Pullcounter
                      both guys sux and didnt deserve to fight cotto
                      Cotto aint that great

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