Pacquiao Says Hatton Will Be His Hardest Fight To Date

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  • Dave Rado
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    #61
    Originally posted by RodBarker
    I reckon Mannys boxing skills has improved out of sight his hand speed and footwork is as fast as Floyds right now and faster than Collazo and he is punching with pin point accuracy from all angles , I think he will use speed and movement to beat Ricky and upset Hattons rhythm much the same way Floyd did , as soon as Hatton starts to think about being countered its as good as over .
    What you say of Pac is true but you're missing quite a few things in your analysis. Mayweather was forced to fight on the inside quite a lot against Hatton, and if it hadn't been for the refereeing he'd have had to fight on the inside even more than he did. Mayweather fought very well on the inside, but will Manny? In Manny's last two fights he didn't have to. Floyd's defence in terms of shoulder rolls and ability to block or smother the opponent's shots on the inside is much better than Pac's. And Hatton is likely to fight a lot more intelligently against Pac than he did against Mayweather Jnr, because he now has a far better trainer than he did then.

    I'm not saying Hatton will win, just that it's likely to be far more competitive than your analysis implies.

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    • RodBarker
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      #62
      Originally posted by Dave Rado
      What you say of Pac is true but you're missing quite a few things in your analysis. Mayweather was forced to fight on the inside quite a lot against Hatton, and if it hadn't been for the refereeing he'd have had to fight on the inside even more than he did. Mayweather fought very well on the inside, but will Manny? In Manny's last two fights he didn't have to. Floyd's defence in terms of shoulder rolls and ability to block or smother the opponent's shots on the inside is much better than Pac's. And Hatton is likely to fight a lot more intelligently against Pac than he did against Mayweather Jnr, because he now has a far better trainer than he did then.

      I'm not saying Hatton will win, just that it's likely to be far more competitive than your analysis implies.
      See what you saying mate but Pauli wasnt forced to fight on the inside niether was Lazcano , I dont see Ricky as this great inside fighter he is cracked up to be Floyd handled him on the inside easily , he bustles pushes and shoves and actually smothers himself most of the time , he attacked Floyd more than the others because he was frightened to give Floyd any range convinced pressure will beat Floyd , I think big Floyd is turning him into using more skills , I really think Mannys hand and foot speed with get him out of trouble and win the fight for him .

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      • MindBat
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        #63
        Jinkee. That sounds like one if the Teletubbies.

        Anyways, Manny is smart not taking Hatton lightly. Ricky may not be his toughest fight to date, but it sure won't be his easiest.

        If Ricky has been following orders and doing his homework, he could surprise a lot of people. That's If he's learned from past mistakes and is able to capitalize on openings offered by Manny.

        No doubt, Ricky will be in there with a warrior who looked very much improved against Oscar.

        You can't count Ricky out just yet. This will be do or die for him.

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        • mayney
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          #64
          Hatton stops Pacquiao in 8 rounds, if not earlier. My only real decision is whether I choose round 8 or earlier for my bet.

          I know I will be shot down for saying this, but I can see it happening.

          Pacquiao beats a weight drained DLH and everyone goes crazy. ANYONE can see that DLH was not right in that fight. Pacquiao was landing 2,3,4 shot combinations at will, all night. Before that fight, I remember people saying that 140 was a huge step for pac and that hatton would be too much.

          The De la Hoya fight proved nothing in my eyes, other than De la Hoya has no business at 147, or he is shot. Remember that DLH wasn't brilliant against Steve Forbes either.

          Hatton ties him up, roughs him up and actually HITS pacquiao (De la Hoya didn't).

          Hatton stops him.

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          • S A M U R A I
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            #65
            Originally posted by mayney
            Hatton stops Pacquiao in 8 rounds, if not earlier. My only real decision is whether I choose round 8 or earlier for my bet.

            I know I will be shot down for saying this, but I can see it happening.

            Pacquiao beats a weight drained DLH and everyone goes crazy. ANYONE can see that DLH was not right in that fight. Pacquiao was landing 2,3,4 shot combinations at will, all night. Before that fight, I remember people saying that 140 was a huge step for pac and that hatton would be too much.

            The De la Hoya fight proved nothing in my eyes, other than De la Hoya has no business at 147, or he is shot. Remember that DLH wasn't brilliant against Steve Forbes either.

            Hatton ties him up, roughs him up and actually HITS pacquiao (De la Hoya didn't).

            Hatton stops him.
            This is another one of those posts which assumes that anyone tipping Pacquiao to win only started taking notice of him since December 2008.

            It's not true.

            We are not all n00bz, so there's no need to tar us with the same brush.



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            • mayney
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              #66
              Originally posted by S a m u r a i
              This is another one of those posts which assumes that anyone tipping Pacquiao to win only started taking notice of him since December 2008.

              It's not true.

              We are not all n00bz, so there's no need to tar us with the same brush.
              No, not at all.

              I would never assume that everyone tipping pac only started taking notice of Pacquiao after december 2008. I hope I didn't come across like that, although reading my post I might have.

              A lot of people on here have a LOT of boxing knowledge - a lot more than me.

              However, there are some people who will be blinded by the DLH fight.

              Just stating my opinion - no offense intended.
              Last edited by mayney; 02-22-2009, 07:40 PM.

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              • start11
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                #67
                Originally posted by mayney
                No, not at all.

                I would never assume that everyone tipping pac only started taking notice of Pacquiao after december 2008. I hope I didn't come across like that, although reading my post I might have.

                A lot of people on here have a LOT of boxing knowledge - a lot more than me.

                However, there are some people who will be blinded by the DLH fight.

                Just stating my opinion - no offense intended.
                Then base on your opinion, we can say that malinaggi is far better than pacquiao because he stand against hatton till round 11?

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                • Dorruel
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                  #68
                  If Hatton is any harder than Marquez. Pacquiao will get his ass kicked.

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                  • mayney
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by start11
                    Then base on your opinion, we can say that malinaggi is far better than pacquiao because he stand against hatton till round 11?
                    What?? No way did I EVEN imply that Malignaggi was better than Pacquiao. I didn't even mention Malignaggi in my post.

                    One of the worst posts on this site in a long time.

                    Nope - Malignaggi was holding, avoiding, grabbing (EVERYTHING apart from fighting). At one point he even grabbed hattons legs. An elusive fighter is hard to hit - someone who is ducking, holding and grabbing is near impossible to hit, nevermind stop.

                    Did you watch the fight?

                    Dont put words in my mouth.
                    Last edited by mayney; 02-22-2009, 08:08 PM.

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                    • start11
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by mayney
                      What?? No way did I EVEN imply that Malignaggi was better than Pacquiao. I didn't even mention Malignaggi in my post.

                      One of the worst posts on this site in a long time.

                      Nope - Malignaggi was holding, avoiding, grabbing (EVERYTHING apart from fighting). At one point he even grabbed hattons legs. An elusive fighter is hard to hit - someone who is ducking, holding and grabbing is near impossible to hit, nevermind stop.

                      Did you watch the fight?

                      Dont put words in my mouth.
                      So do you think in order for pacquiao to go till 12 rds he should be elusive as malinaggi? I think pacquiao is far better than malinaggi in terms of foot work, strenght and out put... Yet he stand against hatton for 11 rds... Then if pac and hatton would face it would be one of the best fight... Surely an immediate candidate for the fight of the year...

                      Maybe your underestimating pacquiao in saying that he will be KOed in 8 rds or less?

                      For me this would be a war and surely a great fight that both have a chance... Depending on how they initials their game plan...

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