Ali after Spinks 2

**jabsRstiff** · 11-11-2004, 08:03 AM

No.....& the only version of Ali that could have beaten Holmes was pre-Foreman.

**GasPed** · 11-11-2004, 02:34 PM

Originally posted by jabsRstiff

No.....& the only version of Ali that could have beaten Holmes was pre-Foreman.

Actually, I think the Ali that took Frazier in the Thrilla might have been able to Holmes. But after that he was pretty much shot.

**marvdave** · 11-11-2004, 03:32 PM

Ali-Holmes would have been a great fight. In their primes they were the best two Boxers the division has seen. I give holmes a great chance at any point of Ali's career. "Styles make fights"

**MikeHunt** · 11-13-2004, 04:38 AM

No way Ali beats Holmes after Spinks 2, NO WAY.

If the Thrilla In Manilla was the best Heavyweight Title Fight EVER as some say.............Ali whups Holmes on principle alone.

Give me the ALI that fought Frazier the first time and the Holmes that beat Norton and we've got ourselves one hell of a fight.

**FistoftheDallasStar** · 11-13-2004, 04:51 AM

Prime Ali vs Prim Holmes. I would have to pick Ali. Holmes learned a lot from Ali as his sparring partner. The master would still be able to teach him a thing or two, prime vs prime. As far as Ali beating Holmes after Spinks I really wouldn't think so. I was too young at that time to remember but all of the post Spinks pictures of Ali shows him to be a very old and out of shape champ. Ali would've have lost either way in my best guess.

**MikeHunt** · 11-13-2004, 05:10 AM

Don't copy me.....

**Keleneki** · 11-16-2004, 04:33 AM

No way does Ali take Holmes after the second fight with Leon. Peronally, I think that Holmes would have a chance against Ali at any point in Ali's career.

**Derranged_** · 11-16-2004, 09:48 AM

Originally posted by Ivansmamma

How much did Ali have left after Spinks 2, could he have beaten Holmes if he fought him right after?

Good Topic. I just ordered Ali-Spinks I and II on ebay and was
able to see Ali in the twilight of his career.

The answer to your question is NO! Ali was a very worn out fighter by then with noticeable effects from Parkinson's disease and/or brain damage and fighting holmes right would just yield the same result. I think a pre-thrilla in manilla Ali would have had enough to beat holmes in a late round knockout or decision.

Watching the Ali-spinks fights you know Ali is done because he made a amateur like spinks look like a contender.

**LuKahnLi** · 11-16-2004, 09:54 AM

Boston, you seem reasonable enough. Why is your karma so low?

Ali after Spinks 2