How many good Fat Yank fighters are there currently?

[Duke McKenzie_]

I often get accused on here (usually by ******s to be fair) of being "anti-American" because I never big up many US boxers. If you'll look closely I rarely big up UK boxers either, unless they're Danny Williams, No.1 ATG. But here's two facts:


1. At least six or seven of my all-time ten favourite boxers are Fat Yanks. In this I include the likes of Ali, Frazier, Holyfield... I might even include that lisping rapist.

2. I think a lot of Fat Yank boxers today are pretty cack.


That's the thing. It's a nadir for Fat Yankery in the sport. In particular, the heavyweight scene is now so dire that the US has taken under its wing Chris "The Nipple" Arreola, a 480lb beaner to represent.

Here's some Fat Yank boxers I rate:

* Gayleather. The guy's retired. Supposedly, anyway.

* Wanky Wrong. I have a lot of time and respect for Wanky, but when it comes down to it... he's so boring he's like a mogadon in pugilist form. The only danger of him putting his opponents to sleep is if they watch his highlight reel.


Those aren't the ONLY Fat Yank boxers I rate, but I need to take a ****. Discuss.

[Sugar May Floyd]

Dawson
Bradley
Peterson x2
Williams
Mosley
Campbell
Pavlik
Taylor
Hopkins
Arreola
Cunningham
Cloud
Banks
Holt
Dirrell
Andre
Kirkland
Ward
Forrest
Berto

[andrewcuff]

I often get accused on here (usually by ******s to be fair) of being "anti-American" because I never big up many US boxers.

Well you aren't helping yourself by using the words 'Fat Yank' in the thread title

[Duke McKenzie_]

Dawson - decent fighter, agreed
Bradley - he seems good too
Peterson x2 - haven't seen these guys I have to concede
Williams - he's okay, but VERY overrated on here
Mosley - Yeah, good fighter
Campbell - I like Nate
Pavlik - I like Moby, but he's very one-dimensional and I wasn't surprised that Hopkins beat him
Taylor - I like Taylor but his stamina is awful
Hopkins - Can be really good, but not a crowd pleaser, certainly
Arreola - The Nipple's a sack of **** that will get KO'd against the first top ten guy he fights IMO
Cunningham - Haven't seen him
Cloud - Impressive, at least at the level
Banks - Don't think I've seen him
Holt - Good from what I've seen
Berto - I used to have a lot of time for Berto, but he seems to have hit his ceiling and is just contender level now. His chin is also a worry.

[Dan...]

Hopkins is still right up there obviously. The likes of Dawson, Paul Williams, Mosley and Pavlik are still right up the top of their divisions. Then you have the guys sitting in behind them like Berto, Wright, Forrest, etc. So yeah, American boxing is doing well. A lot, lot better than the Brits anyway.

[Duke McKenzie_]

Well you aren't helping yourself by using the words 'Fat Yank' in the thread title

I know, baa.

[ALT=_=Assassin]

Yanks like me need to be honest about the state of American boxing....


Mosley only has a couple of fights left, Hopkins will retire shortly if he already hasn't. Then we will have no one on the P4P list left. After that us Yanks have to rely on Dawson to succeed in a weak division to gain notoriety. Pavlik will lose to Abraham/Kessler once/if they fight. We have some prospects like Direll and Ward but what happens after they lose?????

Andre Berto already lost IMO....

[-Antonio-]

Well you aren't helping yourself by using the words 'Fat Yank' in the thread title

Not when he mentions Chris Arreola.

[Duke McKenzie_]

So yeah, American boxing is doing well. A lot, lot better than the Brits anyway.

See, I knew someone would say that, but it's irrelevant. I haven't mentioned UK boxing, and the fact that I come from there has nothing to do with my point.

I'd contest the point anyway... bear in mind a level of proportional representationism has factor into that argument (it has around a quarter of the population of the US) then UK boxing isn't doing that badly. There's a champ or contender in most of the upper divisions.

[Duke McKenzie_]

Yanks like me need to be honest about the state of American boxing....


Mosley only has a couple of fights left, Hopkins will retire shortly if he already hasn't. Then we will have no one on the P4P list left. After that us Yanks have to rely on Dawson to succeed in a weak division to gain notoriety. Pavlik will lose to Abraham/Kessler once/if they fight. We have some prospects like Direll and Ward but what happens after they lose?????

Andre Berto already lost IMO....

Thank **** for you, brother. 100% the truth.