Aurthur Abraham Vs Kelly Pavlik

[miamijohn]

Kelly. Abraham can not kick it with his gloves up against a guy like Pavlik. Kelly picks shots well and has good accuracy, he will split the guard or go to the open body.
That said Abraham is a murderous puncher himself, I expect him to look for a shoot out if he gets hurt.

You gotta think Hopkins spilled the beans a little with his win. Abrahams camp will study that and use it against him. There is no way to see Abrahams weakness, cause nobody exposed him yet. I dont think Abraham gonna let Kelly make it a boxing match. That one ,one ,two,of Kelly wont work.

[KJB]

You gotta think Hopkins spilled the beans a little with his win. Abrahams camp will study that and use it against him. There is no way to see Abrahams weakness, cause nobody exposed him yet. I dont think Abraham gonna let Kelly make it a boxing match. That one ,one ,two,of Kelly wont work.

Your wrong on both counts, brother.
Abraham does not have the skill set to exploit Kelly's weaknesses. Hopkins is a master boxer, Abraham is a slugging, defensive counter puncher.
Abraham's weaknesses have been exposed, he lies back in a shell and lets people go to work, hoping they open up for his big power. If he does that against Kelly, Kelly's 1-1-2 will work beautifully. Once the guard is high and tight you can expect Kelly to dig the body.
I know Abraham will open up with heavy counters, but the style match here favors Pavlik.

[KJB]

This is something that frustrates me about modern boxing fans, actually. I remember reading a post where a guy admitted that pre Hopkins, he would pick Pavlik over Abraham and Sturm, post Hopkins he picks both of them over Pavlik. Thats just ludicrous, neither of those guys are on the same planet as Hopkins when it comes to exploiting weaknesses.

[theghost#1]

Pavlik why are so many picking AA, he really hasn't done anything besides beat Miranda. I don't think AA beats Taylor like Pavlik did.

[theghost#1]

This is something that frustrates me about modern boxing fans, actually. I remember reading a post where a guy admitted that pre Hopkins, he would pick Pavlik over Abraham and Sturm, post Hopkins he picks both of them over Pavlik. Thats just ludicrous, neither of those guys are on the same planet as Hopkins when it comes to exploiting weaknesses.

Perfectly said, after the B-Hop fight everybody seemed to jump off the Pavlik bandwagon.

[KESSLER]

either abraham by ko or pavlik by ud

[Low Blow Armo]

Abraham. The guy is by far the best guy that Pavlik has fought at this weight. I don't think Pavlik can stand and trade with him like he did against Taylor. Arthur by devastating ko.

[miamijohn]

This is something that frustrates me about modern boxing fans, actually. I remember reading a post where a guy admitted that pre Hopkins, he would pick Pavlik over Abraham and Sturm, post Hopkins he picks both of them over Pavlik. Thats just ludicrous, neither of those guys are on the same planet as Hopkins when it comes to exploiting weaknesses.

I didn't compare Abraham to Hopkins...and Pavlik isn't no more skilled than Abraham, Abraham will get Kelly in trouble. If Pavlik thinks like you do he wont make it out the 1st round. Abraham is a animal. Kelly wont hurt him,and look for Kelly to get weak minded LIKE he did with Hopkins. Instead Abraham will will finish him.... Kelly never finished a grueling fight with a broken jaw. He couldnt even keep his head right with Hopkins(not comparing). The mental part goes to Abraham . The power is a toss up. The boxing goes to Pavlik. The Brawlin goes to Abraham. And that mental edge is what will make this fight. Abraham will apply a lot of pressure.

[miamijohn]

Abraham. The guy is by far the best guy that Pavlik has fought at this weight. I don't think Pavlik can stand and trade with him like he did against Taylor. Arthur by devastating ko.

Not only the best guy, the most dangerous one. HE gets no credit for fighting 12rds with a broke jaw. Thats adversity. If youve never been in that ring hurt that bad you wouldnt know. Or common sense .

[MELLY-MEL...]

Not only the best guy, the most dangerous one. HE gets no credit for fighting 12rds with a broke jaw. Thats adversity. If youve never been in that ring hurt that bad you wouldnt know. Or common sense .

no credit? he gets credit, but let's not forget he quit when he though it was gonna be and, and only continued when he knew it went to the cards. dnt bother telling me no. i have seen the fight 3x.