Which Quintana-Williams fight was more of a "Fluke"

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  • Ray*
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    #11
    None, Knocking someone in the first round doesnt mean its a fluke unless you dont know boxing, And schooling someone in a 12 round fight isnt a fluke neither.

    Defination of a fluke- something good that has happened that is the result of chance instead/rather of skill or planning..

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    • Derranged
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      #12
      Its not fair to either fighter to call their wins flukes.

      I wanted to see a rubber match, but at this point its irelevant. Its not a good idea for Williams to keep going up and down in weight, he should probably stay at 154 and above from now on. I doubt Quintana will move to 154 to fight Williams.

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      • The Gambler1981
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        #13
        Originally posted by 120
        lets get a third fight on to see...oh wait, Williams wants no part of that
        What has Quintana done since then? He fought once against some scrub? Wanting to move on to bigger and better things, is much different then being affraid of someone ( I also fail to see how you can avoid a fight with someone you just knocked out in 1 round~).


        Williams did not fight well in the first fight but Quintana has a lot to do with that.

        A knock out always trumps a decision, though imo.

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          #14
          Originally posted by mellow_mood
          co-sign.!!!

          but.. like i say.. if i had to pick one...

          the 2nd one.

          Well to be fair...I've hardly seen anybody say that neither fight was a fluke..you got most of Williams fans sayin the first time was a Fluke and the non Williams/Neutral fans sayin the 2nd fight was more of a fluke..that's why I didn't put the "none" options..sorry..

          But as Welter said..I'm really putting this up cuz I want to see a 3rd fight..cuz I think Quintana can give Williams HELL once again..as long as he comes wit the first fights gameplan..

          Everyone claims Williams is a "new" man and he sits on his punches and has more power..but Quintana wouldn't let Williams sit on his punches and tee off like in the 2nd fight if he does what he did in the first time around!..

          I say the 3rd fight goes down at 154!!

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          • Welter_Skelter
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            #15
            How common are 12 round UD's?

            How common are 1st round KO's in 12 round (championship level) Fights?

            The answer is pretty obvious what is the more fluky occurrence..

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            • The Gambler1981
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              #16
              Just because 2 fighters split 2 fights, there is not always a reason for a third fight. If Quintana wants to force a third fight, he should start fighting real fights and make it happean. In my opinion waiting one someone to give you another oppurtunity, is pretty dumb you have to make your own way.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Welter_Skelter
                How common are 12 round UD's?

                How common are 1st round KO's in 12 round (championship level) Fights?

                The answer is pretty obvious what is the more fluky occurrence..
                What is better a knock out or a decision? Quintana clearly won the first fight but it is not like Williams lost all 12 rounds or did not have his moments in that fight.

                The second fight was ended in a fashion in which left very few questions unanswered. Since when is knocking out someone in the first round not considered like the best you can do in a fight?

                Anyway neither were flukes.

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                • Welter_Skelter
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                  Just because 2 fighters split 2 fights, there is not always a reason for a third fight. If Quintana wants to force a third fight, he should start fighting real fights and make it happean. In my opinion waiting one someone to give you another oppurtunity, is pretty dumb you have to make your own way.
                  Quintana was generous enough to give Williams an immediate rematch..

                  Your logic is very flawed and seems to be based on insecurity

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                  • Welter_Skelter
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                    What is better a knock out or a decision? Quintana clearly won the first fight but it is not liek Williams lost all 12 rounds or did not have his moments in that fight.

                    The second fight was as about as decicive an end to a fight as there could be.

                    Anyway neither were flukes.
                    The 2nd flight was a total fluke.. if it wasn't.. then a 3rd fight will clearly prove that..

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                    • Pullcounter
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Dub_C
                      OK..I keep seeing Paul Williams fans claiming the first fight against Quintana was a "fluke" and showed his true Potential in the rematch!..but I really don't understand this logic..how can you call a 12 round schooling a fluke?..
                      Quintana was moving, circling and popping Williams ALL NIGHT!..he was ROCKING Williams with that looping left hand ALL NIGHT!..

                      So Quintana wasn't suppose to win that fight..and the rematch was almost inevitable!..and Quintana I believe steps in a lil too confident and felt he could stand and trade this time around and Williams catches him clean in the first Round and puts him away..

                      I think In my opinion of course that the second fight was the showcase of a real "fluke" as it was more of Quintana's ****iness/Williams determination that clashed that night..

                      what do you guys think?...
                      neither were flukes. give both guys their due.

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