Mike Tyson and Roy Jones don't like to fight (please read before reply)

[Vladimir303]

This thread Topic reminds me a LOT of Floyd Mayweather Jr..


Just saying is all..

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[KiloTeague]

Some of this is accurate, some of it not. I kind of get what you are trying to say. Here is my take:

Tyson:
He never really had a fight he was loosing and digged down deep and pulled out a win. Not an Ali-Frazier type fight or a SRL-Hearns type fight. Ive noticed a lot of people rate him very high in head to head hypothetical matchups. For example Ive seen a lot of people pick him against Ali, Lennox, just about anybody. But with Ali, weve seen him dig deep and even past his prime pull out some amazing performances, thats why I wouldnt pick Tyson over Ali or Foreman or alot of other guys head to head.
He hasnt shown much heart, but he has shown a pretty decent chin. It always took a pretty lot to put him down.

RJJ:
In his prime, RJJ rarely lost any rounds. He was so above all his competition that he could literally toy with the likes of James Toney. I know what you are saying when you hint that he was afraid of inflicting too much harm on his opponents. Ive heard people say that he was effected mentally by the aftermath of the Benn-Mcclellan fight and after that lost some of his ferociousness in the ring as he didnt want to be responsible for a similar tragedy. Dont know if its true or not cause I wasnt following the sport at the time but thats what Ive always heard.

On another note I think the Hops-RJJ fight is misrepresented sometimes. Hops was competitive and won about 4 rounds, that is actually quite an accomplishment in itself when you consider how dominate RJJ was in the mid to late 90s. It was a competitive fight and not the beat down people make it out to be. Hops was never in trouble or anything but he couldnt deal with RJJs speed, RJJ was too hard to hit.

I agree with you on 95%. Tyson used to get up and Jog 5 miles every day. He trained year around. He trained more than anyone, even Bernard. He used to have incredible indurance, speed and reflexes because he was so deadicated. He started partying and stopped training before the buster douglas fight and he lost. Then he went to jail and he never trained when he got out and he wasn't the same fighter. I feel prime Tyson would make short work of just about everyone except prime Ali. Again I feel Jail took alot from Ali as well.

Right on with Roy. Bernard was competitive winning 4 rounds which was absolutely incredible against Roy Jones since he never did loose rounds. And in the end you are right. He couldn't deal with that speed. At that point in Bernard's career he was dominating his opponents and he couldn't be stopped or hurt, and only that cat like quickness that is 1 in 5 billiion could have beaten bernard. At 160 Roy was the only person to beat Bernard until he lost again when he turned 40. I attribut Roy's Losses to his 35 year old body failing him finally. No fighter has ever dominated boxing for as strong or as long as Roy Jones did.

[hardmanbrit]

Ask Razor Rudduck if Tyson liked to fight or not.

He is probably still in hospital!