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  • #31
    Originally posted by King Burner II View Post
    What he did aginst Oscar at 147 was a joke.

    He beat the living daylights out of guy who hasnt made 147 pounds in 13 years.

    He was 35 years old....and he had his hands full with Steve Forbes at 150.

    ANY WW or JWW wouldve beat Oscar that night.

    What Pacman did was not special...I like Pac but his fans and his promoters will get him hurt.

    These talks of him fighting Mayweather, Mosley, Berto and Cotto are down right irresponsible...they are just looking to cash out on Pacman with big money fights..hel even Floyd will do Pac dirty.

    Everyone is basing this off him in a sparring session with 200 milion dollar punching bag.

    Berto is a guy who comes in the ring no less then 170 fr WW fights and has good power and speed to boot.

    Cotto is a monster whos only loss is to a guy who was twice his size and he had bricks in his gloves.....and Cotto also blows up on fight night to an insane weight.

    Mosley has KO power in both hands...an iron chin and just Kod a guy who many though had the best chin in the sport.....oh yeay and hes the fastest WW int he world.**Zab is not a WW anymore)).

    Mayweather.....take JMM...give him an un-penetrable defense...laser accuracy..insane stamina..blazing speed..the ring smarts of elite level trainers...and cat like reflexes and then you have Floyd......oh and most people think JMM beat Pacman twice already.


    Pacman loses by KO to all 4 of those fighters....before ten rounds.

    Hell I even heard a fan boy say he could beat Paul Williams.a guy whos fighting Winky Wright next for christ sakes..LMFAO.

    They are using Pacmsn star power for money and it will get him really ****ed up if he ever fights any of those 4 fighters....not to mention he may be over head aginst Hatton.

    Im not a Pac basher....Hes a great fighter..not a good one a great one...but he should be fighting guys like JMM..Guzman..Soto..Valero...Juan Diaz....Prescott..Linares....Campbell..Bradley...W itter...Torres.etc.

    Not full blown WW's.

    Well said some of these hardcore Pacfans need a dose of reality and if Manny fights Cotto like Arum is trying to do, it will be the end of Pacman :[.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by KostyaTszyu44 View Post
      pac would beat

      collazo
      cintron
      margarito
      berto
      clottey
      quintana

      but would lose to cotto, floyd and mosley
      if paquiao can beat anyone on that list which i doubt i would give him a good chance of beating shane or cotto but he can never beat floyd

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      • #33
        I should probably mention that I agree with Burner on his main point: Pacman should be looking at the JWW division, and let the right names from LW come up to fight him there. He already has an amazing legacy and he can probably beat just about anybody under 140 pounds.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by LilGizmo562 View Post
          Well said some of these hardcore Pacfans need a dose of reality and if Manny fights Cotto like Arum is trying to do, it will be the end of Pacman :[.
          Good god, gettin wobbled by jmm, Erik m, MAB, is way diff than getting wobbled by citron, mosley, clottey, etc...it moves from wobbled to brown out...possibly knocked out.

          please do not be ******, oscar did not even hit pac...ok ok say he too fast etc, we all know he is fast....we saw it....but we don't know how manny takes a big guy's punch.

          I would just absolutely love to see shane mosley or berto or even cotto slam manny hard to shut most of you forum crazies up.

          Let's see how he does against hatton first...hatton slams hard, if he can catch manny, then we'll know.

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          • #35
            ****in Mayweather nuthuggers....can't accept the fact that Pacquiao was more impressive against Oscar than their coward as$ idol Mayweather.

            I wonder what they'll say if Pac beat Hatton in a more impressive manner than b*tch as$ Floyd.

            Floyd= B*tch as$ coward.... for real.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by GP27 View Post
              Good god, gettin wobbled by jmm, Erik m, MAB, is way diff than getting wobbled by citron, mosley, clottey, etc...it moves from wobbled to brown out...possibly knocked out.

              please do not be ******, oscar did not even hit pac...ok ok say he too fast etc, we all know he is fast....we saw it....but we don't know how manny takes a big guy's punch.

              I would just absolutely love to see shane mosley or berto or even cotto slam manny hard to shut most of you forum crazies up.

              Let's see how he does against hatton first...hatton slams hard, if he can catch manny, then we'll know.
              He has put on a good amount of weight since fighting at 130, his tolerance to punishment should increase somewhat with his size.
              Think about it, could you see the Pac that fought Oscar getting hurt by many JLWs? I cant.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by vErDuGo View Post
                ****in Mayweather nuthuggers....can't accept the fact that Pacquiao was more impressive against Oscar than their coward as$ idol Mayweather.

                I wonder what they'll say if Pac beat Hatton in a more impressive manner than b*tch as$ Floyd.

                Floyd= B*tch as$ coward.... for real.

                ok, you have a right to your opinion...but he is not a coward...god knows i hate floyd and his ****** ass money makin personality more than anything. The truth is floyd is a great defensive fighter, just not exciting. (dear lord i know this has been said 10000000000 times on here, sorry)

                pac beat DLH faster than mayweather yes...but it loses it's value when ODLH did not show up for the fight in tune. GOD - it was like a football player showing up in a tennis skirt.

                Wait i am curious -
                which fight did you like better? ODLH vs PBF or pac vs ODLH wait don't answer....pretend this is a job interview for HBO commentator and answer correctly you get Larry's job (but they will give you a pink microphone cover instead).....Which fight was more entertaining and lived up to hype?.....ok, now you can answer.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by King Burner II View Post
                  What he did aginst Oscar at 147 was a joke.
                  He beat the living daylights out of guy who hasnt made 147 pounds in 13 years.
                  He was 35 years old....and he had his hands full with Steve Forbes at 150.
                  ANY WW or JWW wouldve beat Oscar that night.
                  This said, after the fact. About 95% percent of boxing experts were saying the opposite thing before the fact.

                  Originally posted by King Burner II View Post
                  What Pacman did was not special...I like Pac but his fans and his promoters will get him hurt.
                  Pac can`t be push into doing something. He was actually calling out Margarito before the Mosley fight, not the promoters nor the fans.

                  Originally posted by King Burner II View Post
                  These talks of him fighting Mayweather, Mosley, Berto and Cotto are down right irresponsible...they are just looking to cash out on Pacman with big money fights..hel even Floyd will do Pac dirty..
                  He only needs to defeat either Mayweather or Mosley, after which it is as good as beating all them welterweights.

                  Originally posted by King Burner II View Post
                  ...Cotto is a monster whos only loss is to a guy who was twice his size and he had bricks in his gloves.....and Cotto also blows up on fight night to an insane weight...
                  If Pac beats Hatton, he WILL beat Cotto.

                  Originally posted by King Burner II View Post
                  ...Mosley has KO power in both hands...an iron chin and just Kod a guy who many though had the best chin in the sport........
                  After which when Pacman beats Mosley, you would call the latter shot, old, not prime, right?

                  Originally posted by King Burner II View Post
                  ..Mayweather.....take JMM...give him an un-penetrable defense...laser accuracy..insane stamina..blazing speed..the ring smarts of elite level trainers...and cat like reflexes and then you have Floyd......oh and most people think JMM beat Pacman twice already
                  As if you really cared for the guy, I think you are a Mayweather fan fearing that Pac will become greater than him in the long run. Maybe a JMM fan as well, asking for a rematch.

                  Originally posted by King Burner II View Post
                  Pacman loses by KO to all 4 of those fighters....before ten rounds.
                  You wish.

                  Originally posted by King Burner II View Post
                  Im not a Pac basher....Hes a great fighter..not a good one a great one...but he should be fighting guys like JMM..Guzman..Soto..Valero...Juan Diaz....Prescott..Linares....Campbell..Bradley...W itter...Torres.etc.....
                  Any vested interest here?
                  If you watched the `Cinderella Man`which is by the way a true story, they had the same fears for the fighter. He said the it is HIS profession, he considered himself lucky. Because others in their profession gets killed and are not paid for it.

                  Anyway, Pacman is no longer a minor. You should trust him when he says he can do it. PEACE.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Thwf View Post
                    This said, after the fact. About 95% percent of boxing experts were saying the opposite thing before the fact.



                    Pac can`t be push into doing something. He was actually calling out Margarito before the Mosley fight, not the promoters nor the fans.



                    He only needs to defeat either Mayweather or Mosley, after which it is as good as beating all them welterweights.



                    If Pac beats Hatton, he WILL beat Cotto.



                    After which when Pacman beats Mosley, you would call the latter shot, old, not prime, right?



                    As if you really cared for the guy, I think you are a Mayweather fan fearing that Pac will become greater than him in the long run. Maybe a JMM fan as well, asking for a rematch.



                    You wish.



                    Any vested interest here?
                    If you watched the `Cinderella Man`which is by the way a true story, they had the same fears for the fighter. He said the it is HIS profession, he considered himself lucky. Because others in their profession gets killed and are not paid for it.

                    Anyway, Pacman is no longer a minor. You should trust him when he says he can do it. PEACE.
                    thats the dumbest **** i ever heard.how can you compare hatton and cotto when they are nothing alike

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by letsgobrady View Post
                      thats the dumbest **** i ever heard.how can you compare hatton and cotto when they are nothing alike
                      Well, about a years ago Pacquiao was already calling out Hatton and nobody gave Pacman a chance, right? Pac-Hatton was the fight that was actually Roach`s personal dream match before even the myth of fighting dela Hoya. What would you say about the odds right now? Let`s say he gets past Hatton. Cotto is just about the same height of Pacman. So Pac doesn`t have to punch upwards, and with his speed, I`d give him an even chance.
                      Pacquiao blows up to 151 when training against delaHoya, sparring 44 rounds per day on average. Cotto at 160 would be slower, the weight could work at a disadvantage. And with all the stamina and speed, Pac can win boxing the guy, with a chance of KO.
                      Anyway there may be clauses in weight at fight night, Cotto may not be allowed to blow up to 160 at fight night, maybe 152 at most- you know contracts, penalties and promoter stuff.

                      However, I predict it will be a Pac-Mosley fight, he really wants to prove something. He is a national hero ! And all heroes may die, fact of life.
                      Last edited by Thwf; 02-18-2009, 06:07 AM.

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