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  • snotbox09
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    #1

    get rid of some weight classes.

    is there really a need for so many weight classes in boxing? I mean 17 different weight classes is overdone, and why are there so many for the smaller weights? 8 of those classes are for below 130, and only 5 for over 160...do any of you know 8 grown men that weight less than 130? the way the classes other makes you smaller fighters look better than they really are...If a bantamweight stays in his class and beats everyone gets the ring belt, big FN DEAL. hes the best from 118-122 lbs which makes up of how many fighters? You guys should give heavyweights more credit, thats one class, and 200 lb + probably makes up for 40-50% male population. guys that walk around at 190-200 are pretty much screwed over currently while horse jockeys can beat everyone within a 3 pounds range and be called great...This is the kind of stuff that draws fans away from boxing to MMA... less classes=less watered down champions, better fights...
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    #2
    Originally posted by snotbox09
    is there really a need for so many weight classes in boxing? I mean 17 different weight classes is overdone, and why are there so many for the smaller weights? 8 of those classes are for below 130, and only 5 for over 160...do any of you know 8 grown men that weight less than 130? the way the classes other makes you smaller fighters look better than they really are...If a bantamweight stays in his class and beats everyone gets the ring belt, big FN DEAL. hes the best from 118-122 lbs which makes up of how many fighters? You guys should give heavyweights more credit, thats one class, and 200 lb + probably makes up for 40-50% male population. guys that walk around at 190-200 are pretty much screwed over currently while horse jockeys can beat everyone within a 3 pounds range and be called great...This is the kind of stuff that draws fans away from boxing to MMA... less classes=less watered down champions, better fights...
    Firts of all ,**** MMA aka UFC

    Now to the subject. theres no problem with all the Weight Classes, the Problem is the 100 Titles we have Now a days.

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    • Dan...
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      #3
      This is kind of like the "we need one title per division" debate. Yeah, it would be great to get rid of some of the weight classes, but is it ever likely to happen? Almost definately not.

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      • The Hammer
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        #4
        I don't mind the weight classes, although I think light flyweight and flyweight should be combined into one at 110, instead of 108 and 112. Also, bantamweight and super bantamweight could be combined into one division at 120.

        What would be best for boxing is the sanctioning organizations merge into one - then we would have a real champ for every division.

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        • sugarshanenas
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          #5
          i actually agree

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          • Fulcrum29
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            #6
            Combining weight classes, and thus creating less weight classes would be even more dangerous to fighters who cut weight and weight drain and would result in more fighters getting hurt. The reason being is that fighters who would be at the bottom half of the new weight class would choose to instead starve and weight-drain themselves into the weight class underneath them, rather than compete with guys 10lbs+ heavier with them. I'll give you one hypothetical example:

            Let's say Cotto cannot go down to 140 without risking his health. Let's say Jr. Welterweight and Welterweight are combined with Jr. Middleweight 154. That means Cotto would hypothetically know that to win the 140-154 title he'll be going in against guys that might weigh in at 154lbs but weigh 170lbs at fightnight. So Cotto instead will dangerously drain himself to make the lower weight class limit and compete with those guys for let's say a hypothetical 125-140 weight class or so. So that rather than being the smallest guy, this hypothetical fighter (Cotto or whomever) would prefer to drain themselves to be the biggest guy in the smaller division and stand a better chance.

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            • KostyaTszyu44
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              #7
              Originally posted by snotbox09
              is there really a need for so many weight classes in boxing? I mean 17 different weight classes is overdone, and why are there so many for the smaller weights? 8 of those classes are for below 130, and only 5 for over 160...do any of you know 8 grown men that weight less than 130? the way the classes other makes you smaller fighters look better than they really are...If a bantamweight stays in his class and beats everyone gets the ring belt, big FN DEAL. hes the best from 118-122 lbs which makes up of how many fighters? You guys should give heavyweights more credit, thats one class, and 200 lb + probably makes up for 40-50% male population. guys that walk around at 190-200 are pretty much screwed over currently while horse jockeys can beat everyone within a 3 pounds range and be called great...This is the kind of stuff that draws fans away from boxing to MMA... less classes=less watered down champions, better fights...
              ok well you are ******ed first up

              and second not many people here would know grown men that weigh around that weight is because america is full of fat ****s! (as is my country)

              200+ only accounts for so many ordinary people because they are all fat ****s, very few are naturally that size

              if all ordinary people started dieting and training like boxers i guarantee most would weigh in the 126-160 range

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              • oc9979
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                #8
                Small Medium Large
                5' 2" 128-134 131-141 138-150
                5' 3" 130-136 133-143 140-153
                5'' 4" 132-138 135-145 142-156
                5' 5" 134-140 137-148 144-160
                5' 6" 136-142 139-151 146-164
                5' 7" 138-145 142-154 149-168
                5' 8" 140-148 145-157 152-172
                5' 9" 142-151 148-160 155-176
                5' 10" 144-154 151-163 158-180
                5' 11" 146-157 154-166 161-184
                6' 0" 149-160 157-170 164-188
                6' 1" 152-164 160-174 168-192
                6' 2" 155-168 164-178 172-197
                6' 3" 158-172 167-182 176-202
                6' 4" 162-176 171-187 181-207

                Weights at ages 25-59 based on lowest mortality. Weight in pounds according to frame (in indoor clothing weighing 5 lbs.; shoes with 1" heels)
                this is just healthy weight so it means that most likely all this people could have 18% body fat

                ivan calderon is very small (5'0") even hugo cazares look huge next to calderon

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by oc9979
                  Small Medium Large
                  5' 2" 128-134 131-141 138-150
                  5' 3" 130-136 133-143 140-153
                  5'' 4" 132-138 135-145 142-156
                  5' 5" 134-140 137-148 144-160
                  5' 6" 136-142 139-151 146-164
                  5' 7" 138-145 142-154 149-168
                  5' 8" 140-148 145-157 152-172
                  5' 9" 142-151 148-160 155-176
                  5' 10" 144-154 151-163 158-180
                  5' 11" 146-157 154-166 161-184
                  6' 0" 149-160 157-170 164-188
                  6' 1" 152-164 160-174 168-192
                  6' 2" 155-168 164-178 172-197
                  6' 3" 158-172 167-182 176-202
                  6' 4" 162-176 171-187 181-207

                  Weights at ages 25-59 based on lowest mortality. Weight in pounds according to frame (in indoor clothing weighing 5 lbs.; shoes with 1" heels)
                  this is just healthy weight so it means that most likely all this people could have 18% body fat

                  ivan calderon is very small (5'0") even hugo cazares look huge next to calderon
                  Are you in one of the medical fields? Or a nutritionist or something?

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                  • oc9979
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by jreckoning
                    Are you in one of the medical fields? Or a nutritionist or something?
                    no i just like to do research. i dont like saying stuff just because someone told me so

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