Ray Robinsons resume a little list for the odd nut on the board

**larryx** · 02-14-2009, 05:01 PM

ok??????????????????????

**KJB** · 02-14-2009, 05:16 PM

I see what your trying to do, but believe me, there is no point. You still get kids who have been watching boxing for two years and cant stop arguing about how Ray Robinson would get killed by todays fighters. They dont read history, they dont believe people who know more than they do. Its seriously their problem.
Sugar Ray Robinson, Henry Armstrong, Willie Pep > Todays fighters.

**Ryn0** · 02-14-2009, 05:26 PM

What about Sammy Angottx2, Fritzie Zivicx2, Marty Servox2, Tommy Bell?

**TheGreatA** · 02-14-2009, 05:27 PM

Here's a post of mine about Robinson which was originally a comparison to Floyd Mayweather:

Originally posted by TheManchine

This is a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge post but most of it I've already written before so it didn't take that long to write...

Both fighters were undefeated for their first 39 fights, lets see how Robinson's resume looked like before he lost to LaMotta...

Robinson, who had fought as a featherweight in the amateurs, begins his pro career as a lightweight and steps up against 34-10 Oliver White in his 6th fight, former WW title contender 73-27 Joe Ghnouly in his 16th fight and former LW title contender Pete Lello in his 20th fight.
Robinson is now 20-0 and a top ranked lightweight.

Ray Robinson gets a fight against the lightweight champion Sammy Angott (the only man who holds a win over a prime Willie Pep), giving Angott the worst beating of his career.
The fight, however, was NOT for the title and Robinson decides to move up in weight to welterweight having already beaten the champion in the lightweight division.

Robinson defeats WW contender Maxie Shapiro (50-6) and wins a decision against the 42-0 undefeated, future welterweight world champion Marty Servo. Huge win for young Ray Robinson.

In his next two fights, Robinson twice defeats the veteran hall of famer and former WW champion Fritzie Zivic and becomes one of the only two men to ever stop him.

Robinson then defeats former rivals Servo and Angott in rematches, defeats 27-5 Rubio, 20-3 Shank and 30-4 Tony Motisi, still doesn't get the title shot.

Ray Robinson defeats the future middleweight champion Jake LaMotta who outweighs him by atleast 15 pounds.
This fight would start a long, great rivalry which ended when Robinson became the first man to legitimately stop LaMotta in their 6th fight.

By this point Robinson was 40-0 and already had a hall of fame resume.
Take in consideration that this is just 1/5 of his resume and the early part of it without having even received a title shot yet.

Robinson held wins over men who were/would become lightweight, welterweight and middleweight champions and did all this in just the first 3 years of his career!
Amazing but the best was yet to come.

After losing to Jake LaMotta in a rematch he did not lose another fight in 8 years and went unbeaten for his next 90 fights, winning titles in the WW and MW divisions.
He would go on to defeat such men like Armstrong, Bell, Costner, Curcio, Levine, Doyle, Docusen, Gavilan, Belloise, Villemain, Basora, Olson, Dykes, Turpin, Graziano, Fullmer and Basilio...

Ray Robinson eventually moved up to the light heavyweight division, challenged the champion Joey Maxim and was winning the fight on all 3 scorecards until retiring on his stool due to extreme exhaustion, the only time he was ever stopped in his 200 fight career.

Robinson retired after this fight with a record of 131 wins and 3 losses.
3 years later he would make his return to boxing in need of money and regained the world middleweight title 3 more times while in his mid/late 30's. Robinson finally retired at the age of 44 in 1965.

Sugar Ray Robinson is ranked by many the greatest welterweight of all time and one of the greatest middleweights of all time.

**2501** · 02-14-2009, 05:28 PM

Naw ***** but money may is undefeated man yall stay hatin on floyd cuz he get that paper man anyone can fluff their record with bums like robinson but floyd is undefeated man money may all day

**johnm is...** · 02-14-2009, 05:30 PM

Originally posted by 2501

Naw ***** but money may is undefeated man yall stay hatin on floyd cuz he get that paper man anyone can fluff their record with bums like robinson but floyd is undefeated man money may all day

That's actually a pretty solid impersonation. Well done, Mr. 01.

**larryx** · 02-14-2009, 05:31 PM

Originally posted by 2501

Naw ***** but money may is undefeated man yall stay hatin on floyd cuz he get that paper man anyone can fluff their record with bums like robinson but floyd is undefeated man money may all day

why bring floyd up???

**S A M U R A I** · 02-14-2009, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by larryx

why bring floyd up???

This?

floyd mayweather is the best fighter of all time - Boxing Forum

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=245461

Talk about anything boxing related here. Where the boxing discussion is always Non Stop!

And possibly because Floyd says he is greater than Ray.

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**larryx** · 02-14-2009, 05:42 PM

Originally posted by S a m u r a i

This?

floyd mayweather is the best fighter of all time - Boxing Forum

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=245461

Talk about anything boxing related here. Where the boxing discussion is always Non Stop!

And possibly because Floyd says he is greater than Ray.

floyd gets bashed for what alts say???

Ray Robinsons resume a little list for the odd nut on the board