The Top 20 Greatest Super Middleweights of All-Time

[Chunk..]

Have you tried reading the article? It explains that in great detail.

Still don't agree with Kessler and Ottke being ahead of those guys i've mentioned in my previous post. My opinion.

[Dave Rado]

Still don't agree with Kessler and Ottke being ahead of those guys i've mentioned in my previous post. My opinion.

But he said Toney and Jones would win mythical match-ups against any of the others, but that's not what it's based on, it's just based on their overall records at the weight. He's not claiming this list is any more valid than your list, just that it's an interesting exercise.

[IMDAZED]

Kessler has had a lot of title fights at the weight, and a lot of fights against other titlists - and he's won all but one. Toney and Jones had very few title fights or fights against other titlists at this weight. There's no such thing as a perfect list, either they're purely subjective or they use a formula. Even in the case of subjective lists you have to state your criteria. Toney and Jones would both be likely to beat all the others in a mythical match-up, but that wasn't the criteria. Even in a subjective list, it would be hard to justify putting them at the top, because they had so few fights at the weight.

The formula method is interesting and throws up surprising results that if you think about what they mean, tell you something you hasn't previously considered (which is why they're surprising).

So what? If the formula draws such conclusions then it's a pointless exercise. It might be interesting...but pointless. I imagine if Kessler keeps beating up on washed up champs like Beyer and now Larson, pretty soon he'll overtake Calzaghe.

Bottom line is, whether it's an interesting formula or not, the results prove it's a fruitless one.

[Chunk..]

But he said Toney and Jones would win mythical match-ups against any of the others, but that's not what it's based on, it's just based on their overall records at the weight. He's not claiming this list is any more valid than your list, just that it's an interesting exercise.

Its a pretty pointless exercise IMO.

[Ishy Aytan]

If Roy stayed at that weight, he'd be no1 and still be undefeated.

Fact.

[crold1]

Its a pretty pointless exercise IMO.

If this gets a fan to ask who Park, Baek or Liles was it was well worth it. Unless you were following avidly in the mid-90s, something like Liles-Littles might be way off the radar instead of sought out for repeat viewing.