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  • ..WaRSpencE..
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    #11
    Cotto in both aspects...Collazo had Berto gasping!..although Collazo had decent work to the body..I'll tell you this..Cotto won't be pitty-patting Berto's body..he's aiming to DROP Berto!..

    Cotto's experience is what holds weight in this debate..

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    • Silencers
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      #12
      Originally posted by Sabiondo
      I didnt saw Berto finishing strong in the collazo fight, so i had to go with cotto in this one
      So who came on strong and won the last 2 rounds?

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        #13
        Originally posted by Silencers
        So who came on strong and won the 12th?
        That's true..But you've never seen Cotto that GASSED...and he's been in there wit much better quality of opposition than Collazo..

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          #14
          Originally posted by Dub_C
          That's true..But you've never seen Cotto that GASSED...and he's been in there wit much better quality of opposition than Collazo..
          I have, Mosley, Margarito and Ndou, in those three fights, he faded badly towards the end of those fights and got knocked out by Margarito because of it.

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          • El Dominicano
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            #15
            Can't really compare them because Berto never faced the kind of opposition Cotto has

            Berto NEVER looked bad before the Collazo fight. I gotta say he was damn quick, threw mean combinations and never got tired...Anyway, it is hard to say

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            • Bushbaby
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              #16
              I think Cotto is a better caliber fighter period,but to compare my decision of that based on Collazo would be unwise,because I think Collazo would give anyone including Cotto,12 hard competitive and solid rounds!!

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                #17
                Originally posted by Silencers
                I have, Mosley, Margarito and Ndou, in those three fights, he faded badly towards the end of those fights and got knocked out by Margarito because of it.
                I'm gonna have to disagree...Cotto became a mover in the last 2 rounds..might be due to fatigue..but his punches were still stiff and crisp..and it was against Mosley..not Collazo...and you can't compare how they looked in their fights..Berto looked MUCH MORE gassed in his fight with Collazo than Cotto did in his fight with Mosley..look for yourself..

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Dub_C
                  I'm gonna have to disagree...Cotto became a mover in the last 2 rounds..might be due to fatigue..but his punches were still stiff and crisp..and it was against Mosley..not Collazo...and you can't compare how they looked in their fights..Berto looked MUCH MORE gassed in his fight with Collazo than Cotto did in his fight with Mosley..look for yourself..

                  He became a mover because of fatigue, he was trying to wear out the clock. Mosley won those last few rounds and made the fight close in the process, doesn't make sense for Cotto just to start moving all of a sudden as a tactic when he was winning the fight doing what he was doing in the first half of the fight. I'm not saying Berto has better stamina, it's just not as clear cut as some people think it is, Cotto's conditioning is not the best out there and it showed against Ndou, Mosley and Margarito.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Silencers
                    He became a mover because of fatigue, he was trying to wear out the clock. Mosley won those last few rounds and made the fight close in the process, doesn't make sense for Cotto just to start moving all of a sudden as a tactic when he was winning the fight doing what he was doing in the first half of the fight. I'm not saying Berto has better stamina, it's just not as clear cut as some people think it is, Cotto's conditioning is not the best out there and it showed against Ndou, Mosley and Margarito.
                    I personally gave Cotto the 11th..but that could be argued..you're right tho..he doesn't have the best stamina..but he's a big puncher...so he wears his opponents and they're just as worn as him by the end..

                    which leads me to wonder how he would do wit Paul Williams!..lol

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Dub_C
                      I personally gave Cotto the 11th..but that could be argued..you're right tho..he doesn't have the best stamina..but he's a big puncher...so he wears his opponents and they're just as worn as him by the end..

                      which leads me to wonder how he would do wit Paul Williams!..lol
                      That can't be argued man....Cotto won the 11th no doubt. I've never heard of anyone not giving Cotto the 11th in the Mosley fight.

                      Berto was impressive coming on late in the Collazo fight, but a lot of that had more to do with the fact that Collazo literally had NOTHING. He was a punching bag, put the Cotto from the late rounds of the Mosley fight in with the Collazo from the 11th and 12th in the Berto fight, and Cotto looks just as impressive as Berto did.
                      Last edited by savorduhflavor; 02-12-2009, 11:27 PM.

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