The Margarito-hearing. Questions for Boxingscene staff and posters 'in-the-know'.

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  • BattlingNelson
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    #11
    Originally posted by mangler
    I was surprised they didn't say jack **** about any other incidents before the SSM fight. We already knew about that ****. Nothin much was resolved other than establishin his ban.
    Yeah. Why didn't the ask Capetillo some more about those wraps? I dont get it. I'd hate to thnk it's to protect the integrity of the CSAC because they could very well end up in the firing line if:

    1: Illegal wraps has been approved before.
    2: The gauze used was old.

    You cannot have a commision investigating itself. In that case the result is a given and a lot of stones will remain unturned.

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      #12
      Originally posted by nathan_nall
      Thats the thing... none of us are "in-the-know". We can talk possibilities, and thats fine... so long as were are respectful to each other. But until the CSAC puts out a press release stating "CSAC Requests 10 Boxingscene Posters to Attend Next Scheduled Hearing"... none of us are in the know... we have what the internet provides us.... and "second gunman" theories
      There might be posters who read the local papers and hear the local radioshows and thereby have access to info which havent been provided by the boxingscene staff.

      And there's the boxingscene staff who might have been present at the hearing. I feel some info is still lacking regarding the above issues. Either where they raised or somebody should ask the CSAC why those issues where not pressed any further.

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        #13
        Originally posted by BatTheMan
        There might be posters who read the local papers and hear the local radioshows and thereby have access to info which havent been provided by the boxingscene staff.

        And there's the boxingscene staff who might have been present at the hearing. I feel some info is still lacking regarding the above issues. Either where they raised or somebody should ask the CSAC why those issues where not pressed any further.

        Yeah, I'm with you. I think the CSAC should be nailed to wall more than anyone else. They have not been very open to the public about whats going on behind their closed doors. But as someone who works for a state agency... getting a cup of coffee can take weeks!

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          #14
          Originally posted by nathan_nall
          Yeah, I'm with you. I think the CSAC should be nailed to wall more than anyone else. They have not been very open to the public about whats going on behind their closed doors. But as someone who works for a state agency... getting a cup of coffee can take weeks!
          I know what you mean. I work for a state agency as well..........

          But still the CSAC should be as much on trial here as team Margarito.

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            #15
            Originally posted by BatTheMan
            I know what you mean. I work for a state agency as well..........

            But still the CSAC should be as much on trial here as team Margarito.
            Well, whatever the decision is... the fact that Mosley's trainer caught it, and not a commissioner makes the CSAC look VERY bad... you can bet there will be hell to pay. That opens the doors for not only Margarito's past fights, but all the fights in California where the CSAC might have missed something that big. Not to mention, the CSAC didn't have the best reputation going into this scandal.

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              #16
              Originally posted by nathan_nall
              Well, whatever the decision is... the fact that Mosley's trainer caught it, and not a commissioner makes the CSAC look VERY bad... you can bet there will be hell to pay. That opens the doors for not only Margarito's past fights, but all the fights in California where the CSAC might have missed something that big. Not to mention, the CSAC didn't have the best reputation going into this scandal.
              Exactly. Who knows but maybe the CSAC appointed supervisor was paid 50 bucks to look into the wall? Maybe it wasn't just a one-time negligence. All sorts of theories is possible if this case is not fully investigated.

              The role of a supervisor is told here by president of the danish pro boxing federation Jesper Jensen:
              (my translation):

              "... Through my 13 titlefights and 25 fights as WBA supervisor I'd like to comment on the things I pratice as supervisor:

              1: At the rules meeting (typically after the weigh-in) you agree on time of taping and types of gloves. A second from each corner is invited to look on as the fists are being wrapped. Either the supervisor or another official (referee or judge) must be there at all time as the taping is being done. When the wrapping is over it's approved by all parties and the wrapping is signed by the supervisor.

              2 : Before the fight the boxer gets the gloves (chosen at the rules meeting the day before), and the supervisor checks if new tape has been put on. After that the supervisor and a second from the corner checks that everything is done correctly. The taping on the gloves is then signed.

              3: It's not allowed to tape directly on the hand or above the knuckles and the wrap must be stretchable.

              I do not know what happened (in the Margarito-Mosley fight) for obvious reasons, but I know this is how it's normally done."

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              • Roger Mellie
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                #17
                Originally posted by BatTheMan
                To me the intent was definetely there. But the question is if the police at some point by itself takes over this case?
                If they are going to go further with this,they would probably want to look at what he did to his sparring partner in training for this fight.He actually got an injury,and has some interesting things things to say about it.

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                  #18
                  Is there any punishment for the official who signed and approved Marge's gloves?

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