What is with the notion that USA is all that matters in boxing?

[46-0]

This a serious discussion, no bias or hating.

It has became apparent that alot of people around here have the mindframe that "If a foriegn fighter does not come to the US then he is not a good fighter", and also "A fight is only worth caring about if it is in the US", and last but not least "If a fighter isn't well known in the US then he is no good". What is with this?

I ask you, how come it is okay for a US fighter to never leave his country for a fight but then it is imperitive for everyone else to fight out of their country to gain respect? Surely, if a man is good enough to win a world title, then regardless of his nationality he has earned the right to defend the title where he wants? It makes alot more sense for a fighter to stay at home where he has recieved tonnes of exposure over the years rather than crossing the Atlantic and having to start from the bottom, right?

Also, why is it that people think fights are only worth making if the big US networks are willing to pick the fights up? There is alot of exposure all over the world, I would even argue that fighters gain more exposure and popularity in Europe than they do in the US. Surely it makes more sense for a US fighter who is already an established name in his home country to come over to Europe and gain recognition over here than it does for a European fighter to go to the USA in search of exposure? Especially if Europe is as easy to conquer and full of as much soft competition as claimed. I can not speak for other parts of the world, but I am sure they all have their own booming boxing industries.

Do people not realize that boxing is a global sport? That boxing is making big money all over, not just the USA? This "USA is the mecca of boxing" bull**** doesn't wash. I think this attitude is out-dated and based mostly on bias and nationalism.

Any thoughts?

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

This a serious discussion, no bias or hating.

It has became apparent that alot of people around here have the mindframe that "If a foriegn fighter does not come to the US then he is not a good fighter", and also "A fight is only worth caring about if it is in the US", and last but not least "If a fighter isn't well known in the US then he is no good". What is with this?

I ask you, how come it is okay for a US fighter to never leave his country for a fight but then it is imperitive for everyone else to fight out of their country to gain respect? Surely, if a man is good enough to win a world title, then regardless of his nationality he has earned the right to defend the title where he wants? It makes alot more sense for a fighter to stay at home where he has recieved tonnes of exposure over the years rather than crossing the Atlantic and having to start from the bottom, right?

Also, why is it that people think fights are only worth making if the big US networks are willing to pick the fights up? There is alot of exposure all over the world, I would even argue that fighters gain more exposure and popularity in Europe than they do in the US. Surely it makes more sense for a US fighter who is already an established name in his home country to come over to Europe and gain recognition over here than it does for a European fighter to go to the USA in search of exposure? Especially if Europe is as easy to conquer and full of as much soft competition as claimed. I can not speak for other parts of the world, but I am sure they all have their own booming boxing industries.

Do people not realize that boxing is a global sport? That boxing is making big money all over, not just the USA? This "USA is the mecca of boxing" bull**** doesn't wash. I think this attitude is out-dated and based mostly on bias and nationalism.

Any thoughts?

Good Post. I agree! Green K!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Low Blow Armo]

Its not that fighters that don't fight in the US are not worthy, its that the ones who only stay in Europe, fight garbage opponents, and claim themselves as of the best. Example, Kessler. Also, its no secret that the fighters fighting in the US are generally better than the ones fighting in Asia and clearly better the the average fighter fighting in Europe.

[VERSION1 (V1)]

This a serious discussion, no bias or hating.

It has became apparent that alot of people around here have the mindframe that "If a foriegn fighter does not come to the US then he is not a good fighter", and also "A fight is only worth caring about if it is in the US", and last but not least "If a fighter isn't well known in the US then he is no good". What is with this?

I ask you, how come it is okay for a US fighter to never leave his country for a fight but then it is imperitive for everyone else to fight out of their country to gain respect? Surely, if a man is good enough to win a world title, then regardless of his nationality he has earned the right to defend the title where he wants? It makes alot more sense for a fighter to stay at home where he has recieved tonnes of exposure over the years rather than crossing the Atlantic and having to start from the bottom, right?

Also, why is it that people think fights are only worth making if the big US networks are willing to pick the fights up? There is alot of exposure all over the world, I would even argue that fighters gain more exposure and popularity in Europe than they do in the US. Surely it makes more sense for a US fighter who is already an established name in his home country to come over to Europe and gain recognition over here than it does for a European fighter to go to the USA in search of exposure? Especially if Europe is as easy to conquer and full of as much soft competition as claimed. I can not speak for other parts of the world, but I am sure they all have their own booming boxing industries.

Do people not realize that boxing is a global sport? That boxing is making big money all over, not just the USA? This "USA is the mecca of boxing" bull**** doesn't wash. I think this attitude is out-dated and based mostly on bias and nationalism.

Any thoughts?

Because it true thats why guys like Hatton Lewis and Joe came here and thats why MK wants to come here.

[ИATAS]

I think you got all worked up for my post. I simply tried explaining why a fighter would choose a bigger named opponent, for more money and will be televised on HBo, then fight a guy who has only fought in Germany that no american has ever heard of (besides us boxing fanatics). I don't know why that's hard for you to understand.

[Low Blow Armo]

Because it true thats why guys like Hatton Lewis and Joe came here and thats why MK wants to come here.

Kessler? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. That guy is the biggest joke in boxing, right there with James Toney. But at least Toney wants to fight big names, even if he doesn't deserve it. Kessler will never leave his cozy denmark again.

[larryx]

thread starter makes a good point

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America is not ALL that matters. Though noone can deny it is quite important.

However, it is not impossible to become a superstar and a very rich man without leaving Europe.

[Dan...]

It is simply because all the biggest fights have always happened in the US. The most money in boxing is in the States and most of the elite fighters fight there the majority of the time. It is just the way it is and I cannot see it changing.

[Sin City]

I agree with thread starter.. if you are the champion, they should come to you not you to them when it comes to where you are staging the fight.