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  • #51
    Originally posted by goblin View Post
    Manny LOST to the "freshest" version of erik he fought..beat a barrera that was still in the trilogy wit erik..Lost TWICE to marquez..all of a sudden those names dont look that great with out the details huh..i have NEVER seen a boxer get so much damn credit for beating past prime fighters..un****enbelievble.
    great analysis. my response youre an idiot.

    fly to welter thats 9 divisions,5 weight champ, 6-1-1 against hof's, 1st asian p4p fighter, how is that overrated. hater!

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    • #52
      Right now I would put Pac somewhere in 30-40 ATG

      2 time FOTY
      5 division champ
      KOed other ATG
      Winning record against co-HOFers (6-1-1)

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      • #53
        very biased list...

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        • #54
          pac to high at 20. if he beats hatton, if he beats floyd, if he beats cotto got him in 10 dont know who gets kick out of the top ten yet though,top 5 possibly

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          • #55
            Whitaker should be at 31 Pac at 38, Trinidad at 56, DLH at 98, Calzaghe at 92, Lopez at 25 Chavez at 29, B-Hop at 53, RJJ shouldl be 30

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            • #56
              Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
              Wow, Manny beating Oscar really is overrated. For your sake, I sure hope Marquez doesn't lose to Diaz .

              De La Hoya rated kinda high there too...over Trinidad? Morales? AZUMAH?
              When I saw that A. Nelson had been put that far behind all these other guys, and, most absurdly, that far behind Pac.....well, I just couldn't help but want to cry.

              It's quite strange and maybe it's just the times that we live in now and the need for instant gratification, instant results, greed, the want of fame and the weird obsession so many people now have with idolising their heroes and the ridiculous and mythical hype that gets given to top fighters now, that one win (no, I'm not discounting all his other wins, but it was the Oscar win that made some psycho's think he should be top 20 ATG) can make someone think they are the greatest fighter ever. Also, see Mayweather's place from his most ardent fans.

              Azumah Nelson at 79?

              Where do you have his nemesis Jeff Fenech?
              Last edited by BennyST; 02-06-2009, 02:40 AM.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by *AKO PA HA! View Post
                Not the freshness of Eric Morales the Headbutt of Morales.
                It was the socks against Marquez wasn't it? I can't remember. It could have been something to do with ******** or politics as well but I'm pretty sure it was his socks.

                Just on great excuses, I remember arguing with this guy once, I think it was on youtube, and he refused to believe that Pac actually got KO'd against Torrecampo by a punch. He kept arguing that he only got hit in the body and that there was some weird head clash or he got hit by an elbow or knee, or kicked in the face with steel-rimmed, headkicker boots or some ****e like that because a punch couldn't KO him like that. Weirdest conversation I've ever had.

                Anyway, it's not that bad a list, I've certainly seen much worse, though Pac really does not belong that high at all. No offense AKO. All opinion though.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by boojee View Post
                  well, Pac doesn't have a tko win over someone like a prime, top of his game Daniel Zaragosa.
                  Is that a joke? Seriously? I don't know if you're fooling or not.

                  Zaragoza was really old when Morales fought him. Yes, he was still champ, but it was his last fight ever and he was about 40 years old. He was only beaten in his prime by Jeff Fenech, Patterson and Banke from memory. Man, his fights with Banke and Fenech are brilliant. Forgotten wars!

                  Anyway, it was still a stunning win for such a young guy. Nonetheless, Morales resume is still quite a lot better than Pac's. Barrera's is as well in my opinion.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by boojee View Post
                    NO, you pick. you're the one who put 41 year old grandpa Zaragoza in the list of Erik's greatest win ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!
                    Well, admittedly, while he wasn't at his peak years he was still good enough to be the WBC champ, have been on a long win streak and had defeated guys such as the very great, undefeated Wayne McCullough and also Hector Sanchez, the fine fighter that had beaten guys like Tracy Patterson and Julio Gervacio.

                    So yes, it was still a brilliant win and definitely one of his best. It would be one of anyone's best wins. Zaragoza was an amazing fighter even at that age as shown by who he was still beating. Go watch the fight and you'll see how good he still was.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Alibata View Post
                      First person to ever ko dlh and morales and make em quit.
                      Oh really? Morales, sure and a great win it was. How much credit does D. Diaz get for beating him though or Zahir Raheem? Funny how that works eh?

                      Anyway, I'm pretty sure that he wasn't the first person to KO Oscar. One; because he didn't even KO him and two; because Hopkins had actually KO'd him already. He just retired against Pac. RTD 9, not KO 9. Big difference.

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