Calzaghe Diehard Stans, Come In Here. *Dawson Related*

[slicksouthpaw16]

The bottom line is that Tarver deserved to be rated much higher than Jones and, hence, was the better opponent. As was Glen Johnson.

Exactly, he just has no argument so his twists things and changes the subject when hes being proven wrong. So in conclusion Dirtdigger, Tarver was a title holder that beat Woods who is a top light heavyweight, where as Jones in his come back only beat middleweights and super middleweights who was not even ranked in the top 10 of their OWN divisions even though they were smaller opponents only brought in to make Roy look good. Plus Roy has not beaten any champions in a while, and in fact the last time he ever held a belt was 6 years ago against Antonio, which was a controversial win itself. You asked how Tarver was better than Jones at the time Dawson beat him, well there's your answer in one short paragraph.

[Kris Silver]

Debates always bog down into nonsense.

Bottom line, Dawson & Hopkins are the two most deserving fighters. Fight them or retire, Joe.

I agree with you on Dawson he is my choice. I don't think there's any point in re matching Hopkins for the simple fact it'd be roughly as dull, Calzaghe wouldn't take a few rounds to adjust this time but would win a UD. He'd only needed two more points on one card to have it anyway.

I've heard he's contemplating 3 Americans. Tarver would only be likely if he managed to beat Dawson in the rematch, perhaps that's what's being waited on. Then perhaps Taylor is the 3rd possibility, which isn't awful.

But yes, Dawsons my pick, just not sure it'd come off, or he'll even fight again. Who knows. Surely Taylor, Johnson, Tarver, or someone would be better than nothing though.

[slicksouthpaw16]

Do you have to bum Dawson all the time? I remember you trying to tell me that Eric Harding was an elite fighter.......

I won't bother with the other stuff but i definitely never called Harding an elite fighter, i said he was top 10 when Dawson beat him and that he was an underrated fighter in his prime. Never said he was then or ever an elite fighter.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Actually my argument was that both Tarver and Jones had seen better days when they fought Calzaghe and Dawson respectively.

To say one was "on top" and the other was "shot" or one fight was "worthy" and the other was not............ based off a victory over Clinton Woods is laughable to say the least.

[IMDAZED]

I agree with you on Dawson he is my choice. I don't think there's any point in re matching Hopkins for the simple fact it'd be roughly as dull, Calzaghe wouldn't take a few rounds to adjust this time but would win a UD. He'd only needed two more points on one card to have it anyway.

I've heard he's contemplating 3 Americans. Tarver would only be likely if he managed to beat Dawson in the rematch, perhaps that's what's being waited on. Then perhaps Taylor is the 3rd possibility, which isn't awful.

But yes, Dawsons my pick, just not sure it'd come off, or he'll even fight again. Who knows. Surely Taylor, Johnson, Tarver, or someone would be better than nothing though.

He should fight Hopkins because I'm not buying the "it won't take him as many rounds to adjust" stuff. Like Hopkins doesn't know how to adjust either.

But whatever, if not then fight Dawson (I prefer Chad). I give Tarver a very good chance to defeat him though.

[Dan...]

There are only two acceptable fights IMO. It is either a Hopkins rematch or Dawson. If he wants to retire then I have no problem with that. If, however, he takes another fight and it isn't one of these two I will lose a great deal of respect for the man.

[Dan...]

He should fight Hopkins because I'm not buying the "it won't take him as many rounds to adjust" stuff. Like Hopkins doesn't know how to adjust either.

But whatever, if not then fight Dawson (I prefer Chad). I give Tarver a very good chance to defeat him though.

You give Tarver a good chance of defeating Dawson? Seriously?

[slicksouthpaw16]

Actually my argument was that both Tarver and Jones had seen better days when they fought Calzaghe and Dawson respectively.

To say one was "on top" and the other was "shot" or one fight was "worthy" and the other was not............ based off a victory over Clinton Woods is laughable to say the least.

Since you all of a sudden go by ring ratings now, why not take into account that Jones only made it back to the top 10 because he beat 3 middleweights while Antonio never left even top 5( plus having a title) since around 2000? That is why he is better than Jones at this stage, you young innocent one.

Plus his performances also indicated that he is the better fighter.

[IMDAZED]

You give Tarver a good chance of defeating Dawson? Seriously?

Yup.

I fully expect Dawson to kick his ass but Tarver still has that monster left. I don't think Dawson will want to take them like he did in the last fight.

[Shadow boxer 3]

Calzaghe sucks. that is all