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  • #31
    Originally posted by chicano79us View Post
    LOL!!! Dude you're on a mission aren't you??? I respect your posts at times bro but you're blowing this **** up like crazy.


    K Let me ask you this............lets say the tables were turned and Cotto won, fights Mosley again and they so called find some bull**** with Cotto's wraps. I'm pretty sure some Margarito fans would come out trying to degrade the Cotto win..........HOW WOULD YOU LOOK AT THOSE PEOPLE??? I bet you would be crying that he's innocent AND TO WAIT FOR THE INVESTIGATION TO BE DONE. I would bet my paycheck you would.
    Just like if Cotto would be found with "unknown blocks" on his wraps against Jennings and he would have KTFO of Margarito in July!?..

    OH GOD!...I can see it now!.."So Cotto is like TITO!!..LMAO "...I can and would bet my paycheck on that!..you guys would discredit the win as well..so stop putting up ****** fuckin scenarios that haven't happened..while you try and close ur eyes on the ones that are obviously TRUE!

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    • #32
      Like it was said, if it was the other way around and Cotto was found with some **** in his gloves while gettin a W over Marg, I'd be heated too. I was heated when Naz and camp exposed Trinidad. I mean Felix actually hurt alot of fighters long term-wise, including Vargas. Thats why I can't entirely feel sorry for Cotto. lol What goes around comes around. But now that all this **** is aired out, these Panama Lewis type of tactics should finally be takin out of the sport. You try to cheat, you're gonna get caught eventually. And as a fan of Marg I feel cheated my damn self cause there is that "what if" factor. What if he did use that **** in the past? Was it a difference maker in the fights? Now mind you, I'm assuming all this plaster **** is true. If they have die hard evidence provin Marg is innocent, thats just a relief but there will always be questions. How thick was this "plaster brick?" etc etc. I wan't the all the details, so they better not half ass this ****.

      Now the only thing that gets under my skin about all this is some of these kids are tryin to turn this into a "Mexican thing," lol giiiit the **** outta here. Yeah people were on Margs wagon and fully appreciative of what he was doin in the ring. lol But that was cause your fighters were weak. Pillow punchin, feather fisted ass n*ggas, runnin backwards soo much you'd think they might actually **** around and travel back in time. lol Of course you guys feel relieved about this ****, cause Marg was lookin kindaaaaa nasty back than. lol ****in pea headed lame asses. Marg is one Mexican fighter, not even one of our more technical sound ones, not one of our fast handed ones, he was just a tough brawler that put in work at a respectable rate.
      Last edited by MaYaN_SuN; 02-02-2009, 07:37 AM.

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      • #33
        I like Marg and Cotto but I'm a bigger fan of Mosley.......until this **** goes to court and a final verdict is reached I'll fall back from tryin' to prosecute Marg and his team.......but I have to admit that the findings in the Mosley fight made me start to think ......Clottey blocks punches with his hands and he injured BOTH of his hands in that fight, then the way Cotto broke down in the 2nd half of the fight was kinda strange because Cotto had been in deep waters before and swam out to victories, but on this night he drowned.......the last knee he took looked like it was outta fear ........If any penalties are handed down they will be harsh......I think the board will try to send a message to those who think they can get away with this ****......plus the image of boxing is some what on the line because Margarito is one of the sports "top dawgs".

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        • #34
          One thing you guys are missing in all of this is that "IF" Marg cheated, the "plaster of paris" wasn't taped to his chin....

          No matter how you look at it, Marg still took everything that Cotto had to give in that fight and it's onvious that Mosley hits much hotter.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496 View Post
            One thing you guys are missing in all of this is that "IF" Marg cheated, the "plaster of paris" wasn't taped to his chin....

            No matter how you look at it, Marg still took everything that Cotto had to give in that fight and it's onvious that Mosley hits much hotter.
            Look man, if your getting smcked around with brass knuckles your punches dont come off perfect, Mosley didn't KO Margarito, he quit !! You dont get KO'd with a smile on your face.

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            • #36
              Shane is very generous to say Antonio may not have known what was going on his hands. Firstly if you were someone that has boxed all their lives, wrapped their own hands before, had it done a lot, you know if something feels harder or different to me. Secondly aside from not noticing the material on your hands feels slightly different, I do think the fighter takes some responsibility on what is going on, whether it's right or not. It's naive to just stick your hands out, wait 15 minutes with what, not even looking, then just going into a fight with those hands and whatever you've got, to hurt someone.

              Margarito in all clips I've seen however, has a good look at his hands being wrapped, so I just fail to accept he didn't have some kind of inclination something was up.

              Furthermore, in that video he proclaims to his fans I have let you down, ok on what front the wraps or losing? Ambiguous.

              Then rather than clearing that up and pleading, assuring that there was nothing wrong with your wraps, or at least that you knew of, he proclaims he's sorry basically just that he lost and would be back stronger.

              Why would you in this position, not plead to your fans and the public, that there was nothing wrong with your wraps, at least that you knew of? Those are the natural hall marks of an innocent man.

              I'm sorry, this just looks worse for him and his trainer with everything that comes out.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by IwatchBoxing View Post
                Look man, if your getting smcked around with brass knuckles your punches dont come off perfect, Mosley didn't KO Margarito, he quit !! You dont get KO'd with a smile on your face.
                He quit? What fight were you watching? His corner wanted to end it and he demanded to go out there and fight until he got KNOCKED OFF HIS FEET, that's a KO.

                Quitting is what Cotto did, looking to his unlce for help in the corner. Bottom line is, Marg took everything Cotto had to give for the first 7 rounds before the fight was turned around.

                It's ok, I know you ricans want to see him guilty and buried, thats cool. Just don't try to make an excuse for Cotto and the beating he received. If marg is guilty, then *** him like I said but we don't know what the verdict is yet.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496 View Post
                  One thing you guys are missing in all of this is that "IF" Marg cheated, the "plaster of paris" wasn't taped to his chin....

                  No matter how you look at it, Marg still took everything that Cotto had to give in that fight and it's onvious that Mosley hits much hotter.
                  When you don't have to worry about getting hit with blocks of concrete, you can sit on your punches and hit with more power.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by BMWM3P View Post
                    When you don't have to worry about getting hit with blocks of concrete, you can sit on your punches and hit with more power.
                    For the fist 7 rounds Cotto was DOMINATING Marg. Haha it's funny how now the illegal wraps had everything to do with it. Mosley fought a 10X better fight and execution.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by KrisSilver View Post
                      Shane is very generous to say Antonio may not have known what was going on his hands. Firstly if you were someone that has boxed all their lives, wrapped their own hands before, had it done a lot, you know if something feels harder or different to me. Secondly aside from not noticing the material on your hands feels slightly different, I do think the fighter takes some responsibility on what is going on, whether it's right or not. It's naive to just stick your hands out, wait 15 minutes with what, not even looking, then just going into a fight with those hands and whatever you've got, to hurt someone.

                      Margarito in all clips I've seen however, has a good look at his hands being wrapped, so I just fail to accept he didn't have some kind of inclination something was up.

                      Furthermore, in that video he proclaims to his fans I have let you down, ok on what front the wraps or losing? Ambiguous.

                      Then rather than clearing that up and pleading, assuring that there was nothing wrong with your wraps, or at least that you knew of, he proclaims he's sorry basically just that he lost and would be back stronger.

                      Why would you in this position, not plead to your fans and the public, that there was nothing wrong with your wraps, at least that you knew of? Those are the natural hall marks of an innocent man.

                      I'm sorry, this just looks worse for him and his trainer with everything that comes out.
                      boxers are trained to box, they arent trained to make sure their hands are wrapped legally, that's they trainers job.

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