Cintron, Collins Sr. Speak on The Margarito Controversy

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  • MACAQUEINBLACK
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    #101
    Originally posted by TheManchine
    Aside from all the bleeding, Cotto wasn't really that badly beaten up, atleast compared to Billy Collins Jr. Not much swelling, broken bones or anything like that, just a big cut and a bloody nose.





    After a couple of days Cotto was back to normal while Collins suffered permanent damage to his face and eyes.
    Yes.


    Curious also for Collins Sr. to suggest that the damage Cotto sustained can't be caused by a glove, when, in truth, we have innumerable examples of equal or worse beatings inflicted in fights where no such tampering has ever been suspected.

    Can't really criticize Collins Sr., though. His emotions are involved, and those may be clouding his judgement.

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    • Doc Holliday
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      #102
      Originally posted by americanme
      dude,, please.. those are just words..like having your trunks too high is 'illegal'..

      NY had thier OWN RULES on wrapping..wasnt that big a deal. Richardson camps like to get n fighters heads..
      That's the point I'm trying to make. I think this is all just a tactic Richardson uses to get in the other fighter's head. But this time it has grown way out of proportion, and those with something to gain from discrediting Margarito are running with the worst-case scenario.

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      • Doc Holliday
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        #103
        Originally posted by Dave Rado
        At the time of the Hopkins-Trinidad fight, I thought Bouie Fisher was Hopkins' trainer, though, not Richardson? And AFAIK, Fisher never said anything about plastic (or plaster) falling out.
        Richardson was the chief second, as he was in the Mosley/Marg fight. He was recently quoted as saying something also fell out of Tito's wrap that night.
        Last edited by Doc Holliday; 01-30-2009, 05:06 PM.

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          #104
          Originally posted by elwills
          Richardson was the chief second, as he was in the Mosley/Marg fight. He was recently quoted as saying something also fell out of Tito's wrap that night.
          That's bull****. He just came out with that Trinidad thing now...never heard anything like that before. I believe Bouie Fisher was the primary witness anyway and didn't mention that. Plus, Trinidad went on to knock Cherifi and Mayorga out after that with "legally wrapped" hands. Obviously no one knows if Margarito or Trinidad were cheating yet but I just don't think that the incidents are the same IMO one has to do with wrapping style the other with a foreign substance...

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          • americanme
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            #105
            Originally posted by elwills
            That's the point I'm trying to make. I think this is all just a tactic Richardson uses to get in the other fighter's head. But this time it has grown way out of proportion, and those with something to gain from discrediting Margarito are running with the worst-case scenario.
            Couldnt agree more. Im glad the Cali Criminal Dept is testing the guase and not the Commision.. The truth will come out....

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              #106
              Originally posted by twinchrome44s
              That's bull****. He just came out with that Trinidad thing now...never heard anything like that before. I believe Bouie Fisher was the primary witness anyway and didn't mention that. Plus, Trinidad went on to knock Cherifi and Mayorga out after that with "legally wrapped" hands. Obviously no one knows if Margarito or Trinidad were cheating yet but I just don't think that the incidents are the same IMO one has to do with wrapping style the other with a foreign substance...
              Trini's hands were just not wrapped the way NYSAC says they should be... its diff in each state, wasnt like he was illegally wrapping his hands packed with dynomite..

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                #107
                Originally posted by twinchrome44s
                That's bull****. He just came out with that Trinidad thing now...never heard anything like that before. I believe Bouie Fisher was the primary witness anyway and didn't mention that. Plus, Trinidad went on to knock Cherifi and Mayorga out after that with "legally wrapped" hands. Obviously no one knows if Margarito or Trinidad were cheating yet but I just don't think that the incidents are the same IMO one has to do with wrapping style the other with a foreign substance...
                Why would Richarson say something fell out at all then if its BS..? he said " just like with Titos handwrapps, we opened them and somehting fell out "..

                why take his word on Margo and not Tito...

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                • Doc Holliday
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by twinchrome44s
                  That's bull****. He just came out with that Trinidad thing now...never heard anything like that before. I believe Bouie Fisher was the primary witness anyway and didn't mention that. Plus, Trinidad went on to knock Cherifi and Mayorga out after that with "legally wrapped" hands. Obviously no one knows if Margarito or Trinidad were cheating yet but I just don't think that the incidents are the same IMO one has to do with wrapping style the other with a foreign substance...
                  Richardson is the one that said it, not me. But it is strange that he's saying the same thing about Trinidad after all this time. Which leads me to believe that Richardson exaggerated in both cases, in order to get both fighters to re-wrap and get in their heads.

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                  • dondi330
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                    #109
                    This is almost funny when you hear the Margarito fans. When Cotto lost ..they were like Margarito really messed Cottos face up bad...now you hear them saying (with all the wrap talk) Cotto's face wasnt that bad....lol
                    Im mean cmon...be real

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                      #110
                      Something was there that wasn't suppose to be there... it is that simple. People are so obtuse, it isn't even funny.

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