The Sport of Boxing *Attention Haters

**larryx** · 01-29-2009, 11:19 PM

most huggers are alts and are only here to cause problems..boxing is such a sweet science only a few can ever understand it

**Contenders** · 01-29-2009, 11:19 PM

Originally posted by mugeninfinity

Judges are human, and make mistakes. Judges are all individuals. 3 individuals may perceive the same exact thing in three different ways. This leads to way too much controversy over every decision that is made in a close fight. In reality the person to land the most punches wins the fight. Why leave it to an opinion, when we have technology capable of telling us facts.

Love the competition. Respect the champions. Enjoy the show.

Let's celebrate boxing! (=

That shouldn't be the only basis to win a fight. There's ring generalship, effective offense (telling blows, not just pitty pat), etc. I agree that changes can be made, but I don't think the scoring should be that cut and dry.

**Massage Queen** · 01-29-2009, 11:24 PM

Originally posted by mugeninfinity

The fan base of boxing seems to be quite poor and immature. Instead of enjoying the sport, people will worship a fighter. In turn they begin to view the sport in a biased way. I believe more rules need to be created, for the future success of the sport. Judges may need to be replaced with a more accurate technology (scoreboard?). Fighters to be more properly examined.

At the end of the day, the stats don't lie. Fighters just trying to get them W's. If they lose, and have a "good" they still have that loss on their record. period.

Judges are human, and make mistakes. Judges are all individuals. 3 individuals may perceive the same exact thing in three different ways. This leads to way too much controversy over every decision that is made in a close fight. In reality the person to land the most punches wins the fight. Why leave it to an opinion, when we have technology capable of telling us facts.

All great champions get defeated, because they are human. The physical specimen that was Mike Tyson was destroyed. because of out of the ring choices and distractions. The great Muhammad Ali was defeated because he probably took a few too many head shots during his career. Roberto Duran loss to the sands of time.

Love the competition. Respect the champions. Enjoy the show.

Let's celebrate boxing! (=

I couldn't agree with you more.. You also have to add politics into this. Yes the scoring is based on opinion, but also politics. If it's left to the score cards, more than likely it will go to the hometown favorite, or if it's (say for example on HBO) a network fighter they are much more likely to get it. ie: Berto/Collazo. I had it 115-112 Collazo, and there was a judge that had it 116-111 Berto. idk how anyone could of had Berto winning 9 rounds of that fight(& that's with the point deduction), and I like Berto!
You're so right.. Something needs to change in order to change this sport..

ALSO one thing that I don't like about boxing that needs to be changed is that you can hold a belt, and not have to fight all the mandatories. As long as you have the money, you can buy your time, and dodge whoever you want! It's BS.

**sylvestersweet** · 01-29-2009, 11:29 PM

I do agree with your overall point of not nuthugging and just having a love for the sport not any particular fighter. Too many people put their allegiance behind one man and it deludes them into thinking he's some kind of a God and that other fighters who should be respected are garbage.
But what is this about a computer scoring?Humans are the only way to properly score a fight. Computers can't see the effectiveness or the power behind the punch. Scoring shouldn't also only be about the person who lands the most pitter-patter punches. What we need are judges who are not corrupt, not different types of scoring systems.

**mugeninfinity** · 01-29-2009, 11:32 PM

Originally posted by Contenders

That shouldn't be the only basis to win a fight. There's ring generalship, effective offense (telling blows, not just pitty pat), etc. I agree that changes can be made, but I don't think the scoring should be that cut and dry.

@Massage Queen

I was just about to mention the Collazo fight. I believe many of Collazo's combination's were disregarded because of they were not "telling blows" as Contenders mentioned.

I do agree that those types of hits should be counted more. However, in Williams - Margarito, many of Williams' rounds were given because of very weak combination's that barely grazed Margarito and he lost that fight pretty decisively as I recall. Consistency needs to be maintained in Judging.

2 Human Judges and 1 Computer?

**Contenders** · 01-29-2009, 11:36 PM

Originally posted by mugeninfinity

@Massage Queen

I was just about to mention the Collazo fight. I believe many of Collazo's combination's were disregarded because of they were not "telling blows" as Contenders mentioned.

I do agree that those types of hits should be counted more. However, in Williams - Margarito, many of Williams' rounds were given because of very weak combination's that barely grazed Margarito and he lost that fight pretty decisively as I recall

I see where you're coming from...I had Collazo winning 114-113 by the way.

You mean Margarito lost, right? While it's true that Williams' punches weren't as hard as Tony's, that fight was simply P-Will being A LOT busier than Marg in the early rounds...entire first half actually, plus the final round.

Anyway, I just think it shouldn't be that simple...land more punches, win the fight. In some cases, yes. But not all the time.

**aether** · 01-29-2009, 11:43 PM

Originally posted by mugeninfinity

@Massage Queen

I was just about to mention the Collazo fight. I believe many of Collazo's combination's were disregarded because of they were not "telling blows" as Contenders mentioned.

I do agree that those types of hits should be counted more. However, in Williams - Margarito, many of Williams' rounds were given because of very weak combination's that barely grazed Margarito and he lost that fight pretty decisively as I recall. Consistency needs to be maintained in Judging.

2 Human Judges and 1 Computer?

i actually think that could work. but applying these improvements might cause problems...

**IwatchBoxing** · 01-29-2009, 11:48 PM

I agree, whos the chick in your avatar?

**mugeninfinity** · 01-29-2009, 11:56 PM

Originally posted by Contenders

You mean Margarito lost, right?

Anyway, I just think it shouldn't be that simple...land more punches, win the fight. In some cases, yes. But not all the time.

yes, and valid point

i actually think that could work. but applying these improvements might cause problems...

I'm sure any change would stir up the boxing community, but it may be better for the long run.

@I watch boxing

Not sur, model by the name of angelica

The Sport of Boxing *Attention Haters