Naz is comparing Tito to Margarito? what?

[AztecWanker]

I know I'm right, you don't comprehend basic english.

That's a cute insult and everything but it just does'nt make sense. What does that mean?

[Del Coqui]

Thank you for your time.

anytime............

[M.I Truth ?]

I think that the guaze MArgo uses is pre used, there fore a little stiff .. so it looked more suspect w/ people in their going ooooooooooooh ahhhhhhhhhh it looks like plaster!!! ..

If they are loaded then the fact they are pre used (with bloodstains and such) could be the end of Tony.

[Libido Sanchez]

Well, if Richardson later said that he was just getting into Tito's head with the accusations, then the same argument can be used in the Marg incident, although what makes it different is the "evidence" and investigation.

But then again maybe Richardson has a bias against Latino fighters? Or maybe he's telling the 100% truth and both had the plastic-like thingy. Who knows?

Really though, I know better than to go there with this, but I just feel compelled to say this. You can't separate SOME people's ethnic pride and/or racist beliefs when watching boxing (or doing anything else for that matter). To be dead honest, I think there's SOME reactionary feeling going on based on race that's why Tito gets dragged into this.

I guess you should know before I go on that I'm Mexican, a Cali native who lives in NY, where's there's plenty of PRs obviously. (I've even been to the beautiful island and had fun.) Being Mexican, I don't like it when discussion goes from Marg is a cheater to F*** Mexico, as if one man's alleged actions speaks for a whole nation. Honestly, at least for me, when it starts getting to that level (and right when the fight was about to start I knew I was gonna come on here and read some "Mexicans are scumbags" BS) the reason I want to bring up Tito (and even Resto... although that's a whole another discussion) is really just to say to the racists that they are being hypocrites. I want to say IF Tito really did use illegal wraps then the beating he gave Vargas was f***ed up.

But then I start thinking about it, and realize this shouldn't be a tit-for-tat discussion, like I'm keeping score in a video game. These are real people's lives and health.

So, yeah, to recap... whoever uses illegal wraps should be dealth with. I hope for Cotto, Cintron, Vargas, whoever, that none of it's true.

[ELHURACAN58]

“Same thing with Tito’s hands,’’ said Richardson, then Hopkins’ trainer. “This plastic-like substance fell out from behind the gauze on Tito’s hands."



by by Norm Frauenheim on 25 January 2009

15rounds.com

If hes comparing this to Tito then Margarito should be safe and sound cause Tito aint a cheater....

[Del Coqui]

Well, if Richardson later said that he was just getting into Tito's head with the accusations, then the same argument can be used in the Marg incident, although what makes it different is the "evidence" and investigation.

But then again maybe Richardson has a bias against Latino fighters? Or maybe he's telling the 100% truth and both had the plastic-like thingy. Who knows?

Really though, I know better than to go there with this, but I just feel compelled to say this. You can't separate SOME people's ethnic pride and/or racist beliefs when watching boxing (or doing anything else for that matter). To be dead honest, I think there's SOME reactionary feeling going on based on race that's why Tito gets dragged into this.

I guess you should know before I go on that I'm Mexican, a Cali native who lives in NY, where's there's plenty of PRs obviously. (I've even been to the beautiful island and had fun.) Being Mexican, I don't like it when discussion goes from Marg is a cheater to F*** Mexico, as if one man's alleged actions speaks for a whole nation. Honestly, at least for me, when it starts getting to that level (and right when the fight was about to start I knew I was gonna come on here and read some "Mexicans are scumbags" BS) the reason I want to bring up Tito (and even Resto... although that's a whole another discussion) is really just to say to the racists that they are being hypocrites. I want to say IF Tito really did use illegal wraps then the beating he gave Vargas was f***ed up.

But then I start thinking about it, and realize this shouldn't be a tit-for-tat discussion, like I'm keeping score in a video game. These are real people's lives and health.

So, yeah, to recap... whoever uses illegal wraps should be dealth with. I hope for Cotto, Cintron, Vargas, whoever, that none of it's true.

I saw this thread went to **** as soon as I read the title. The obvious thing to think is another Margo fan, frustrated and trying to bring a PR boxing icon with him down. This was a good post so I want to reply to it by parts.

I actually don't think he did this to Margo to get into his head, he found a foreign substance along with blood on those gauzes, Richardson has been around the game for a long time, he saw a substance that could handicap or even kill his fighter, you think he was only trying to throw Margarito off by punching Capetillo on his mouth? Second time they wrapped him, he made them take the wraps off, that could very well be to throw him off his concentration. In Tito's case, there was a ton of people in that dressing room not just team Tito and Richardson, if a gauze had an illegal substance, does it make sense everybody agreed to keep it quiet and just say it was a bad wrap?

I agree with you this discussion has turned racial and that's the reason why Tito was dragged into this. Tito beat all great Mexican fighters he came across, as soon as the wrap story came out, Mexicans along with others, labeled him as a dirty fighter for that, just keep that in mind.

I agree again, whoever cheats should be dealt with, not only wraps but steroids as well

[Vasyl’s dad]

I saw this thread went to **** as soon as I read the title. The obvious thing to think is another Margo fan, frustrated and trying to bring a PR boxing icon with him down. This was a good post so I want to reply to it by parts.

I actually don't think he did this to Margo to get into his head, he found a foreign substance along with blood on those gauzes, Richardson has been around the game for a long time, he saw a substance that could handicap or even kill his fighter, you think he was only trying to throw Margarito off by punching Capetillo on his mouth? Second time they wrapped him, he made them take the wraps off, that could very well be to throw him off his concentration. In Tito's case, there was a ton of people in that dressing room not just team Tito and Richardson, if a gauze had an illegal substance, does it make sense everybody agreed to keep it quiet and just say it was a bad wrap?

I agree with you this discussion has turned racial and that's the reason why Tito was dragged into this. Tito beat all great Mexican fighters he came across, as soon as the wrap story came out, Mexicans along with others, labeled him as a dirty fighter for that, just keep that in mind.

I agree again, whoever cheats should be dealt with, not only wraps but steroids as well

Dude, get it through your head, this has nothing to do with nationality.

If Tito had been Chinese, and Richardson made the comments he made, I would have made the thread as well.

Tito was one of my favorite fighters. In fact, I was the only Mexican in a house full of Mexicans rooting for him against DLH.

Don't assume that because you think you know why I made this thread. You've helped turn it into **** by making your own assumptions of why it was made in the first place. You saw the words, "Tito" and "Margarito" mixed together and automatically went into defense mode without even knowing my stance on the subject.


The people that turned it to **** are the ones who personally attacked me without even reading the damn article. Instead of focusing on what Naz said, they turned their anger towards the messenger.


Again, its very odd that these comments would come from someone who was there, making similar accusations about handwraps 7 years ago.

Leave your nationality out of it. I do it in 99% of my posts.

[Del Coqui]

Dude, get it through your head, this has nothing to do with nationality.

If Tito had been Chinese, and Richardson made the comments he made, I would have made the thread as well.

Tito was one of my favorite fighters. In fact, I was the only Mexican in a house full of Mexicans rooting for him against DLH.

Don't assume that because you think you know why I made this thread. You've helped turn it into **** by making your own assumptions of why it was made in the first place. You saw the words, "Tito" and "Margarito" mixed together and automatically went into defense mode without even knowing my stance on the subject.


The people that turned it to **** are the ones who personally attacked me without even reading the damn article. Instead of focusing on what Naz said, they turned their anger towards the messenger.


Again, its very odd that these comments would come from someone who was there, making similar accusations about handwraps 7 years ago.

Leave your nationality out of it. I do it in 99% of my posts.

I never said it was your intention, dont take it so personal, I just said the way it sounded as soon as you read the title, I know you been ***ed with in this thread but I've been fair.

[Vasyl’s dad]

I never said it was your intention, dont take it so personal, I just said the way it sounded as soon as you read the title, I know you been ***ed with in this thread but I've been fair.

For the most part you have, I just don't like being accused of making a thread simply because Margarito is Mexican, and lost.


I don't work that way.

Paz

[KiloTeague]

I will address Naz's comments for you.

Seeing as how it was Boui Fisher who called Tito out and not Naz at that point.

Seeing as how this is the first time a foreign object in Tito's gloves has ever been mentioned.

Seeing how Margarito just had something hard fall out of his gloves

Seeing as how it is a quote read by your eyes, but not heard by your ears coming out of Naz's mouth.

Naz was probably misquoted as he was probably talking about Margarito. There was probably Tito questions thrown his way and whoever wrote the article probably dropped the ball.

Hows that for speaking on what Naz was quoted as saying? Good enough for you?