I Think Margarito Took a Dive!

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  • DrewWoodside
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    #181
    Originally posted by Low Blow Armo
    Especially the one about wanting to get knocked out. As if it was planned that he had to get knocked. I'm telling you all, the odds of Shane winning on a knock out, especially on a knock out on a certain round, was astronomical. I wish I knew about this **** before, I wouldve bet the house on it too.
    Betting Margarito to win by stoppage on a particular round would have paid back HUGE.

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    • Vasyl’s dad
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      #182
      Originally posted by DrewWoodside
      Ok.. Lets look at the clues:

      1.) The week Margarito is supposed to sign the contract for this fight he goes missing. Several boxing fans fear he was kidnapped or fell victim to drug cartels. (Anyone reading boxingscene the week before this fight was official will remember this. It seemed ridiculous then but it might make sense in light recent events) Perhaps he was busy negotiating the dive with the Arellano Drug Cartel.
      2.) The Alibi: Margarito allows himself to be caught redhanded with loaded handwraps in a fight he is considered a heavy favorite. Likely an effort to draw attention away from the dive.
      3.) Most fans did not even recognize the fighter in the ring that night. A lot of insiders and fans acknowledge he did not look like Margarito. Punch output was suspect.
      4.) The confession: "I wanted to get knocked out!" Sounds like he went in there with a gameplan.
      5.) The Arellano drug cartel is a vicious and ruthless organization: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tijuana_Cartel

      Maybe Margs did take a dive, and Maybe he didn't.. but it's certainly worth considering.

      Interesting.

      This bout gets more strange by the minute.

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        #183
        Originally posted by HappyBoxingFan
        I just spoke to my sister's boyfriend who works for the Justice Department in California. He said that they are in the preliminary stages of forming a commitee to investigate the Margarito v. Mosley fight. Apparently, an overwhelming amount of the pre-fight action was put on Mosley. He said that these 'smart money' wagers are common, although two factors have piqued the Justice Department's interest.

        First, the amount of the wagers placed on Mosley was in great dispaity to the number of them. He said when alot of small wagers are made immediately prior to the fight they can be more easily dismissed as 'smart money' than a handful of very large ones. On Saturday, six separate Las Vegas casinos took wagers on Mosley at approximately 7:26 PST (right before the fight) totaling more than two million dollars.

        Second, the FBI in Southern California has been investigating for some time the Arellano Drug Cartel's dealings with a number of athletic events, including boxing. The Arellano family has apparently kidnapped and held at ransom the wife or children of certain fighters in an effort to get that fighter to fix the fight. A former member of Margarito's management named Roberto Ramos is currently under investigation for being associated with the Arellano cartel.

        Is it possible that Margarito threw the fight? I'm sure we'll being hearing more about this.

        When has Margarito NOT gotten hit with big shots??? He's there to be hit and that's exactly what Shane did. Margo just couldn't stand up to the SSM-bombs coming his way and he got stopped. Plain and simple. In no way did he take a dive--he just got his ass beat.

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          #184
          Originally posted by golpealhigado
          Never underestimate the power of the Arrellanos.
          Them cats aint no joke, remember when they killed that bishop back in the day?

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            #185
            Originally posted by mrlopez
            Them cats aint no joke, remember when they killed that bishop back in the day?
            Why did they kill the bishop? Out of curiosity do they mess with regular civilians and just kill other gang members or will they attack anyone?

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              #186
              Originally posted by DrewWoodside
              Why did they kill the bishop? Out of curiosity do they mess with regular civilians and just kill other gang members or will they attack anyone?
              From my understanding, and I'm no expert on the subject, but anyone with money or anyone who gets in the way is a target. Public officials, police, etc.

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                #187
                Originally posted by 5burowz
                When has Margarito NOT gotten hit with big shots??? He's there to be hit and that's exactly what Shane did. Margo just couldn't stand up to the SSM-bombs coming his way and he got stopped. Plain and simple. In no way did he take a dive--he just got his ass beat.
                C'mon... he took bigger shots from Cotto

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                  #188
                  Originally posted by El Gallo Negro!
                  From my understanding, and I'm no expert on the subject, but anyone with money or anyone who gets in the way is a target. Public officials, police, etc.
                  Co sign that

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                    #189
                    Originally posted by El Gallo Negro!

                    Interesting.

                    This bout gets more strange by the minute.
                    Marg was swinging my friend I rewatched the fight last night two times. he was missing wildly. Marg throws wild punches from all angles but he is very slow. Shane was working with a trainer that focused on D for the fight. his whole game plan was to stick and move exchange when needed not go to the ropes and clinch when he was going to receive in return. he totally took Tony out of his rythem and Tony's punch output was a clearly affected by this. he fought a perfect game plan. he did what Cotto should of did go to the body and instead of just moving away he was either pumping his jab to Tony's chest stomach or face while he was moving backwards then sometimes he would lunge forward with his right hand and dip to his left. he was very unpredictable. Stop with this no agression BS. When you are in there with a World Class Fighter and they have you timed and are catching you with the shots like Shane was throwing lets see how aggressvie you are....Lefty

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                      #190
                      Originally posted by DrewWoodside
                      Ok.. Lets look at the clues:

                      1.) The week Margarito is supposed to sign the contract for this fight he goes missing. Several boxing fans fear he was kidnapped or fell victim to drug cartels. (Anyone reading boxingscene the week before this fight was official will remember this. It seemed ridiculous then but it might make sense in light recent events) Perhaps he was busy negotiating the dive with the Arellano Drug Cartel.
                      2.) The Alibi: Margarito allows himself to be caught redhanded with loaded handwraps in a fight he is considered a heavy favorite. Likely an effort to draw attention away from the dive.
                      3.) Most fans did not even recognize the fighter in the ring that night. A lot of insiders and fans acknowledge he did not look like Margarito. Punch output was suspect.
                      4.) The confession: "I wanted to get knocked out!" Sounds like he went in there with a gameplan.
                      5.) The Arellano drug cartel is a vicious and ruthless organization: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tijuana_Cartel

                      Maybe Margs did take a dive, and Maybe he didn't.. but it's certainly worth considering.
                      They should call you in to help solve the JFK assasination and do some work on the Rick Ross case or maybe.....just maybe Margarito got his ass whooped......Like I said

                      Marg was swinging my friend I rewatched the fight last night two times. he was missing wildly. Marg throws wild punches from all angles but he is very slow. Shane was working with a trainer that focused on D for the fight. his whole game plan was to stick and move exchange when needed not go to the ropes and clinch when he was going to receive in return. he totally took Tony out of his rythem and Tony's punch output was a clearly affected by this. he fought a perfect game plan. he did what Cotto should of did go to the body and instead of just moving away he was either pumping his jab to Tony's chest stomach or face while he was moving backwards then sometimes he would lunge forward with his right hand and dip to his left. he was very unpredictable. Stop with this no agression BS. When you are in there with a World Class Fighter and they have you timed and are catching you with the shots like Shane was throwing lets see how aggressvie you are....Lefty

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