Cotto fans, dont get your hopes up.. Tony still beats Cotto

[AztecWanker]

Maybe. But I believe it less than I did before Mosely whupped Margarito.

yea cause Shane and Miguel have the same exact same styles, strength, and speed

[Margacheato]

I think Cotto should buy some yachts then add bedrooms to them and more garage space.

It would make him a better fighter.

[letsgobrady]

masrgarito is a bum and cotto will put the beats on him, margarito in my eyes only won 3 rounds against cotto and he couldn't win a single round against mosley.
as long as you don't lay on the ropes or let margarito put you on the ropes it's an easy fight

[americanme]

masrgarito is a bum and cotto will put the beats on him, margarito in my eyes only won 3 rounds against cotto and he couldn't win a single round against mosley.
as long as you don't lay on the ropes or let margarito put you on the ropes it's an easy fight

lols.........

[letsgobrady]

i doubt if cotto can even beat clottey or margarito.
He still makes the same mistakes he made as a young pro
Those habits dont change overnight.
cotto is just not a eliite fighter yet, he is on the cusp. but he gets hit to much and swings too wide. and at this level you can not let top notch athletes hit an average on 20-35 times a round and expect to obtain the title of undisputed champion and last long, margarito just prove that.
When you got fighters who have the power to hurt you and knock you out.

Cotto

1. Swings wide,
2. Waste Punches,
3. Cant stop straight right hands or uppercuts,
4. and is under progressing in the lateral movement department.

For me what makes a fighter a great boxer is not just going in thier just slugging it out in a 'see who falls first' scenario.
It is seeing some real skill and artistry in the ring.

Cotto has all the potential in the world. But he hasnt reach it yet.


This is why I stop placing my Champion standards on Cotto. Because to me he is not a real enough champion for me to place these kind of standards on. because he never beat a champion. He always fights for vacant titles.
IMO, Fighting for a vacant title is fine if you do it rarely. But if the only time
you win a title is against a contender for a vacant belt. Then i see it as cheating the game of boxing. Because the fighter is not willing to fight the champion for that belt or go find a champion and take his belt. But instead
That fighter is taking the easy route to become a champion.

This is nothing new with me, I been like this from day 1.
( CHECK MY THREAD HISTORY) I has always had a problem with Cotto doing this, Just because he has not done it the traditional way.

Cotto is becoming a "vargas" to me now. He is just another name in the pack... I am starting to not take the guy seriously anymore...

And To clear up the air.
There is a difference between Criticism.
and Just Hating..

I do not blately Hate on Cotto
I criticize him.

The only time I might Blately hate on Cotto is when I am obliviously trying to
make a point. About Hypocrisy i see on here.

The difference is Criticism is a where somebody points out the problem, and fellow it up with a possible answer..

Hating is just Pointing out problems with No constructive answer to follow up
your compliant.

I never say Cotto Sucks
I never say Cotto doesnt has the most potential in all of boxing
I never say cotto is not probably the best ww out of all the ww's because of his intangible's.
I never say Cotto is a fraud
I never say Cotto is a ***** for no reason.
- I did get on him for not going out on his shield like most of his fans demand other fighters do.

What I do is say, Cotto wastes punches, Cotto cant defend the straight right Hand, Cotto is vulnerable to uppercuts, Cotto defense hasnt improved much he still makes the same mistakes....,Cotto is not a draw like tito was, even though he has the same fan base, Cotto is not taking enough control of his career And Making the fights he wants public.

Thats is not Hating that is pointing out a obvious. It's called Criticism.

This is Hating:
Cotto ****ing sucks ****
Cotto is a bum. (no explanation..)

I dont blatey hate on Cotto.
I criticize him because, Everybody wants to make him something he is not.
And that is a Validated Great Fighter.

He is still trying to make a name for himself at this point of his career,
when he should be focusing on validating himself at this point of his career.

• What is Cotto's Legacy? at 28 years old and almost 9 years into his career?
• Is Cotto going to the Hall of Fame if he retire today?
• Can you rarely Compare Cotto to all time great fighters at this point in Cotto's career?
• Why Should Cotto be Place in the category of a validated great fighter base on what he has done... ?
• What Fight Make Cotto a great Fighter?

This is Criticism, These are Valid Questions....
and At this Point of Cotto's Career he has more Questions than Answers.

The funny thing is, He can still answer all of these Questions...
but The Recent Career move by Cotto fighting for another VACANT title. When the person who own that title wanted to fight Him before he vacated is ******.

When is cotto going to understand that fighting for vacant titles is not
making his situation better, but worst. Because THOSE FIGHTS ARE NOT VALIDATING HIM. BUT RAISING QUESTIONS ABOUT HIM.

what fight makes floyd a great fighter?
you talk about hippocracy but u yourself are also a hippocrite you only make comments about someone like cotto because cotto was the man that every one looked at as the best ww when floyd himself was a ww and if cotto's name was never mentioned in the same sentance as floyd then you would never comment on him

by the way i do think floyd is the man point is u can nit pick at most fighters resume whether it be floyd,bernard,calzaghe or cotto

[lefthook2daliva]

yea cause Shane and Miguel have the same exact same styles, strength, and speed

No, smart guy. It's because,

a) I'm not convinced that Margarito didn't use illegal wraps in the Cotto fight.

and

b) I'm not convinced that Cotto didn't do some lasting damage to Marg in their fight.

and

c) Marg just took a worse beating from Mosely than Cotto took from Margarito and I'm not convinced that Margarito will ever recover entirely from it.

Why be a prick when you reply to a post?

[Horus]

what fight makes floyd a great fighter?
you talk about hippocracy but u yourself are also a hippocrite you only make comments about someone like cotto because cotto was the man that every one looked at as the best ww when floyd himself was a ww and if cotto's name was never mentioned in the same sentance as floyd then you would never comment on him

by the way i do think floyd is the man point is u can nit pick at most fighters resume whether it be floyd,bernard,calzaghe or cotto

"LGB"
what fight makes floyd a great fighter?


Floyd Mayweather: Career Span ( 11 Years: In which 10 Years He was a champion)

• Undisputed Champion in 3 Divisions (The Ring Belt)
• 5 Division Champion
• Superfeather weight Ring Champion (Fact) (The Ring Belt)
• Lightweight Ring Champion (Fact) (The Ring Belt)
• Welterweight Ring Champion (Fact) (The Ring Belt)

1. Professional: 39 fights; 39+ (25 KO)
2. 31 Fights at 140 and under
3. 8 fights at 154 and under
4. Champion for 10 years
5. Champions Fought:13
6. Champions Fought in their prime:8
7. 1998-2002: W.B.C. Juniorlightweight (8 title defenses)
8. 2002-2003: W.B.C. Lightweight ( 3 title defense)
9. 2005: W.B.C. Juniorwelterweight
10. 2006: I.B.F. Welterweight
11. 2006-2008: W.B.C. Welterweight
12. 2007: W.B.C. Juniormiddleweights
13. Ring Fighter of the Year: 2 times 1998 and 2007
14. WBC Fighter of the year 3 times : 1998,2001,2007
15. World Boxing Hall of Fame’s Fighter of the Year: 2002
16. USA Today Fighter of the Year: 2007
17. Boxing Writers Association of America Fighter of the Year:2007
18. ESPN fighter of the year:2007
19. ******* Fighter Of The Year: 2007
20. Undefeated

People Say All Mayweather has Never been in any Wars with a Prime P4P Opponent:

But I Guess that they never seen him fight Jesus Chavez 35-1.in 2001.

People Say Mayweather has never fought Somebody who would have to make him fight
But I Guess that they never seen him fight Jose Luis Castillo 2002.

Jesus Chavez 35-1 (TOP 5 in the division)
Carlos Hernandez 33-2 (TOP 5 in the division)
Justin Juuko 33-2 (TOP 5 in the division)
Angel Manfredy 25-2 (TOP 5 in the division)
Carlos Gerena 34-2 (TOP 5 in the division)
Diego Corrales 33-0 (CHAMPION IN THE DIVISION) Top 5 p4p
Genaro Hernandez 38-1(CHAMPION IN THE DIVISION)
Jose Luis Castillo (CHAMPION IN THE DIVISION)



I have one question?
Since 2006 to the Present
Who is the RING magazine Ring Champion of the
Welter Weight Division?

Meaning Who iS The current or last undisputed King of the WelterWeight Division?

The answer is..................(DRUMROLL)

Vacant.!!


There is no recognize champion at the Welterweight division.
The Last Universally Recognize champion with the RING BELT.

Floyd Mayweather...

http://www.thering-online.com/ratings/welterweight/

The Ring's titles are all you need to pay attention to. I'm a firm believer that their champions are the only true champions

[King Jaffe Joffer]

apparently u are a ****** who don't follow boxing.cotto's has mosley's number and cotto is very pissed of all this bull**** that has happened. margarito is going to get hurt.

And you are not only a ****** but a butthurt Cotto nuthugger

[Piper the Great]

Yes cotto will lose again. Margarito give him one of those ass whooping that stick with you. Just b/c cotto beat shane dont mean ****. Margarito will stop him earlier next time simply b/c once tony hit him a few times cotto will start to fold again. Cotto still the better boxer but its a mental thing.

[Pullcounter]

cotto doesnt have the stamina to do what mosley did