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  • DJR005
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    #11
    my explanation

    The only way he wont be undsptd champ is if the margo fight had that much of an effect on him...he already beat shane once and even with his new trainer naz i dnt c mosley winning against a man with speed and power plus we all know how shane does against people he lost to in rematches...berto is doesnt have enough experience yet to beat cotto and he leaves his body open for cottos rib shots which can end a fight in a split second...i dnt know too much about clottey but from the 3 fights ive seen of his i dont think he beats miguel although it be a good one

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    • DuttyAlacrity
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      #12
      I don't know. I like cotto but i'm not sure if he can win a rematch with SSM or a fight with PW

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      • DrewWoodside
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        #13
        Originally posted by 123tyson123
        yeh i reckon cotto will be #1 by this time next year.
        I think he's #1 again. Versatile, young. He's got some of Margarito's power, Some of Margarito's speed, solid heart & endurance. Only thing he doesn't have his height.

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        • L.E.X
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          #14
          Hellz yeah he will be! Mosley will be tough to beat but Cotto will do it

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          • NeXt In Line
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            #15
            Originally posted by DJR005
            The only way he wont be undsptd champ is if the margo fight had that much of an effect on him...he already beat shane once and even with his new trainer naz i dnt c mosley winning against a man with speed and power plus we all know how shane does against people he lost to in rematches...berto is doesnt have enough experience yet to beat cotto and he leaves his body open for cottos rib shots which can end a fight in a split second...i dnt know too much about clottey but from the 3 fights ive seen of his i dont think he beats miguel although it be a good one
            Yes,he does better in the rematch, and most times hen he lost the first fight, he knew it. The Cotto fight was the closest fight he had in awhile, and I really think with Naazim in Shane's corner he'd be able to beat Cotto. If Cotto chose to box, Shane would know what to expect, and if he chose to be a bull, Shane should be prepared because of the way Margarito fought him.

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            • AntDawg
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              #16
              I doubt it....I don't think he could beat Clottey.

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              • crillz
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                #17
                Originally posted by DJR005
                If the welterweight chammps all fight each other like i posted before...then in my opinion by this time next year miguel cotto will be the undisputed welterweight king and be the new face of the sport along with manny.
                you gotta remember that Miguel as of late has been making mistakes, fighting defensively and completely abandoning his offense, backing himself into corners and allowing his opponent to walk him down.. you might say well he only did that with Tony, right? wrong he did it against Shane too. for the 2nd half of the fight he started out boxing Shane, for the 1st half he was ****ing with him though, he switched up and since then, even against Gomez, he just couldn't find his rhythm anymore in terms of offense and has just been on some defensive ****. he needs to bring back the Cotto who fought Quintana, the one who fought Judah u feel me he needs to be hunting for blood because against a guy like Margarito you have to be a smarter aggressor, you need to at least not let him back you down if you yourself aren't going to back him down but **** back stronger and smarter, pin point your shots and he's yours. I can't say he's purely 1 dimensional but Margarito is a tough and rugged, come forward fighter who's ready to take to give, Cotto is smarter than this but when he allows for him to walk him down to the ropes and he doesn't attack the body he becomes the weaker fighter, he's more open to attack when he's backed into the ropes, the style he was using wasn't meant to be on the ropes but more so of a pace dominating style and he didn't dominate the pace..

                Tony fought a smarter fight against Cotto because Cotto didn't do his part, if Cotto would have just out worked him inside and smother his punches he could have done the same but when you allow yourself to be trapped whether because you don't have the stamina or the pressure is too much, for whatever reason you give the other guy the upper hand.. these are mistakes he's going to have to correct if he intends to become the undisputed Welterweight king, that is a heavy task if you're a current top fighter in the division, the talent is immense and I KNOW Cotto has what it takes to win but the question is will he be smart enough to use it, I hope so..

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                • QuebecSTAR
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by DJR005
                  If the welterweight chammps all fight each other like i posted before...then in my opinion by this time next year miguel cotto will be the undisputed welterweight king and be the new face of the sport along with manny.
                  Imo.
                  Cotto's heart was taken, he will never be the same.
                  He didn't get KO by a lucky punch.
                  The guy was beat and he knew it, that is why he quit.
                  I believe that his confident isn't where it was used to be.

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                  • Horus
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by DJR005
                    If the welterweight chammps all fight each other like i posted before...then in my opinion by this time next year miguel cotto will be the undisputed welterweight king and be the new face of the sport along with manny.
                    i doubt if cotto can even beat clottey or margarito.
                    He still makes the same mistakes he made as a young pro
                    Those habits dont change overnight.
                    cotto is just not a eliite fighter yet, he is on the cusp. but he gets hit to much and swings too wide. and at this level you can not let top notch athletes hit an average on 20-35 times a round and expect to obtain the title of undisputed champion and last long, margarito just prove that.
                    When you got fighters who have the power to hurt you and knock you out.

                    Cotto
                    1. Swings wide,
                    2. Waste Punches,
                    3. Cant stop straight right hands or uppercuts,
                    4. and is under progressing in the lateral movement department.


                    For me what makes a fighter a great boxer is not just going in thier just slugging it out in a 'see who falls first' scenario.
                    It is seeing some real skill and artistry in the ring.

                    Cotto has all the potential in the world. But he hasnt reach it yet.


                    This is why I stop placing my Champion standards on Cotto. Because to me he is not a real enough champion for me to place these kind of standards on. because he never beat a champion. He always fights for vacant titles.
                    IMO, Fighting for a vacant title is fine if you do it rarely. But if the only time
                    you win a title is against a contender for a vacant belt. Then i see it as cheating the game of boxing. Because the fighter is not willing to fight the champion for that belt or go find a champion and take his belt. But instead
                    That fighter is taking the easy route to become a champion.

                    This is nothing new with me, I been like this from day 1.
                    ( CHECK MY THREAD HISTORY) I has always had a problem with Cotto doing this, Just because he has not done it the traditional way.

                    Cotto is becoming a "vargas" to me now. He is just another name in the pack... I am starting to not take the guy seriously anymore...

                    And To clear up the air.
                    There is a difference between Criticism.
                    and Just Hating..

                    I do not blately Hate on Cotto
                    I criticize him.

                    The only time I might Blately hate on Cotto is when I am obliviously trying to
                    make a point. About Hypocrisy i see on here.

                    The difference is Criticism is a where somebody points out the problem, and fellow it up with a possible answer..

                    Hating is just Pointing out problems with No constructive answer to follow up
                    your compliant.

                    I never say Cotto Sucks
                    I never say Cotto doesnt has the most potential in all of boxing
                    I never say cotto is not probably the best ww out of all the ww's because of his intangible's.
                    I never say Cotto is a fraud
                    I never say Cotto is a ***** for no reason.
                    - I did get on him for not going out on his shield like most of his fans demand other fighters do.

                    What I do is say, Cotto wastes punches, Cotto cant defend the straight right Hand, Cotto is vulnerable to uppercuts, Cotto defense hasnt improved much he still makes the same mistakes....,Cotto is not a draw like tito was, even though he has the same fan base, Cotto is not taking enough control of his career And Making the fights he wants public.

                    Thats is not Hating that is pointing out a obvious. It's called Criticism.

                    This is Hating:
                    Cotto ****ing sucks ****
                    Cotto is a bum. (no explanation..)

                    I dont blatey hate on Cotto.
                    I criticize him because, Everybody wants to make him something he is not.
                    And that is a Validated Great Fighter.

                    He is still trying to make a name for himself at this point of his career,
                    when he should be focusing on validating himself at this point of his career.
                    • What is Cotto's Legacy? at 28 years old and almost 9 years into his career?
                    • Is Cotto going to the Hall of Fame if he retire today?
                    • Can you rarely Compare Cotto to all time great fighters at this point in Cotto's career?
                    • Why Should Cotto be Place in the category of a validated great fighter base on what he has done... ?
                    • What Fight Make Cotto a great Fighter?


                    This is Criticism, These are Valid Questions....
                    and At this Point of Cotto's Career he has more Questions than Answers.

                    The funny thing is, He can still answer all of these Questions...
                    but The Recent Career move by Cotto fighting for another VACANT title. When the person who own that title wanted to fight Him before he vacated is ******.

                    When is cotto going to understand that fighting for vacant titles is not
                    making his situation better, but worst. Because THOSE FIGHTS ARE NOT VALIDATING HIM. BUT RAISING QUESTIONS ABOUT HIM.

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                    • NAPO
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                      #20
                      lets see his performance against jennings if he makes hi statement in great fahion he would be 2 fights away to become the undespiuted WW champion.

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