The margarito hand wrap Controversy

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  • Actus Reus 21
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    #11
    Originally posted by i box oranges
    didnt Luis Resto do this?
    yea but he had the gloves hollowed and ****ed with the gloves

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    • Actus Reus 21
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      #12
      you guys dont have to internet hate on me for thinking of this in a different perspective

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      • Arsekicker
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        #13
        Hey dimwitt, it's been done before on various occassions.

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        • LEFTYGUNZZ
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          #14
          Luis Resto adds another sad chapter to 25-year-old boxing scandal

          Originally posted by YoungMoney17
          This is just overhyped! No way would a fighters hands be able to survive cement/plaster! For you that have boxed before you know what im talking about! Its just not possible! Either your hand is goona break or your hand is goona be so cut up its goona bleed through the gloves by the 2nd round. You guys are morons to believe that someone would actually fight with cement in their wraps under 8oz gloves, seriously I thought some of you guys on here had more common sense.
          Luis Resto and his trainer Panama Lewis removed the padding from his boxing gloves before he fought Billy Collins, Jr. at Madison Square Garden 25 years ago. Resto beat Collins to a pulp.

          Resto and Lewis were subsequently convicted and served time for their crime. Collins suffered from blurry vision and depression after the fight. Nine months after the fight Collins died in a car crash near his home in Nashville that some believe was no accident.

          Resto added another heinous chapter to that sad story on Thursday when he admitted that Lewis also put plaster on the tape over his knuckles, encasing his fists in a cast inside of the gloves with the pad removed.

          "It was like a bare knuckle fight," said Eric Drath, the director of a documentary about the fight and the scandal entitled "Cornered."

          Resto sat at a small table at Jack Demsey's in Manhattan on Thursday afternoon between a poster advertising the documentary and a poster-sized black and white photo of Collins' face - his eyes blackened and swollen shut - taken after the fight.

          In soft tones Resto, a once-promising welterweight from the Bronx, expressed regret for what happened. But he still seemed confused why he was banned from boxing 24 years ago. Drath, who befriended Resto during the filming, apparently coaxed him to come clean.

          As a result of the new information regarding the tape, Andrea Collins-Nile, Collins widow, has filed a motion with the Federal Court in Albany to re-open the case against New York State. A civil trial in the matter resulted in a hung jury and the case in the Federal Court of Claims against the State of New York was dismissed by a judge.

          "Ultimately I'm not Resto's judge," Collins-Nile said. "The boxing commission was negligent. They were there to protect my ex-husband and they did not."

          Billy Collins, Sr., who trained his son, discovered that the gloves had the padding removed after he went over to shake Resto's hand after the fight. Collins became upset and screamed that there was no padding in the gloves. The gloves were confiscated in the dressing room by the New York commission that night.

          Mark Thompson, the lawyer representing the Collins estate, said he is hoping that the doctored hand wraps will prompt a judge to let the case against New York go forward.

          Thompson said the hand wraps were not in question during the first trials, because the focus was on the gloves. Oddly enough Resto was allowed to take the hand wraps with him that night.

          Drath said Resto thinks he has the hand wraps in some other boxing memorabilia at a relative's home.

          If a judge grants the motion for a new trial, Resto will be at the center of Thompson's case. Thompson said Resto has no motive to lie, because he does not benefit financially from the success of the documentary.

          Thompson said an inspector at the time, Patsy Giovanelli, signed off on the gloves even though he wasn't present when Resto's hands were wrapped and the gloves were put on. Inspectors didn't have to be present for those things, but they were responsible for making sure the gloves hadn't been tampered with.

          Resto and Lewis did their dirty work out of view of the commission and no one re-checked to make sure that things were above board with the gloves.

          Resto said he made the admission because he wanted to unburden himself.

          "Yes, I feel better," he said when asked if he was glad he finally told the truth.

          Resto said Lewis had applied plaster to the tape in his hand wraps in two other fights. But he said he couldn't recall which fights. He never protested the use of the plaster.

          "I said let's go ahead and do it," Resto said.


          ....Lefty

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          • Margacheato
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            #15
            All of you who are disagreeing are ******.

            YoungMoney17 is the authority on the matter.

            He is an expert in plaster physics and forensics.

            Bow in the presence of greatness.

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            • MaYaN_SuN
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              #16
              Originally posted by them_apples
              it is a tad over hyped in this day and age, having plaster under your wraps (especially under a few layers of guaze) isn't going to make a drastic difference other than give him a more solid fist, but nothing devistating. Knuckles are just as hard as plaster.

              It was cheating though, wonder why he felt the need to cheat.
              How do you know this? Have you seen doctored wraps before?

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              • MANGLER
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                #17
                You'd think if he really was doin this in all his fights, Marg would have a much higher KO percentage in his wins, and his opponents would all be ruined or permanently injured. This is why I refuse to believe he's made a career habit outta this **** til it's somehow proven unquestionably. Too bad most won't wait so they can form their hateful opinions based on actual facts.

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                • TJ Tornado
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by larryx
                  news flash...its been done before..and they found the **** in his wraps..point blank period
                  The padding on Resto's gloves was completely removed I believe, and I'm pretty sure his hands where shred to pieces after that fight as well.

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                  • Welter_Skelter
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by YoungMoney17
                    This is just overhyped! No way would a fighters hands be able to survive cement/plaster! For you that have boxed before you know what im talking about! Its just not possible! Either your hand is goona break or your hand is goona be so cut up its goona bleed through the gloves by the 2nd round. You guys are morons to believe that someone would actually fight with cement in their wraps under 8oz gloves, seriously I thought some of you guys on here had more common sense.
                    I think it is in fact you.. who doesn't know what he is talking about..

                    This sort of stuff has been done since the beginning of modern boxing.. everything from rolls of coins to plaster of paris..

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                    • larryx
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by TJ Tornado
                      The padding on Resto's gloves was completely removed I believe, and I'm pretty sure his hands where shred to pieces after that fight as well.
                      i wasnt talking about resto..i know that story

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