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  • a-raines21
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    #41
    Originally posted by QUELOQUE
    So knocking out Cotto, Cintron 2x, Lewis, Sergio Martinez, and beating Clottey doesn't merit a fight with Mayweather. You nuthuggers are hilarious, Mayweather gets a pass from all of you for avoiding all the top welterweights. He suddenly retired right before Cotto-Margarito because he didn't want to get bombarded with the questions of fighting the winner. It was such a huge deal that he'd rather retire than take the Oscar payday
    that simply shows his disinterest in the sport. duh!

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    • letsgobrady
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      #42
      Originally posted by Pico Hollywood
      Word i feel like im arguing with a mirror image of my self from 6 months ago, yes zab was legit baldy was legit, floyd ruined them and they ended up doing horrible every fight after him, doesn't look good for the legacy and you know boxing fans have short memories...you know this man

      bottomline floyd's stint at 147 was very short, no doubt if he fought two more fights at 147 it would be hard to fuel the haters fire but he didn't which leaves people speculating, i believe pbf could have taken anyone in the division but he retired too early, but it doesn't really bother me much because he rtired on top, but his opponents need to keep winning so it increases his legacy...

      i'm out..
      floyd will always get credit for zab because he's a name but floyd didn't win a title against zab because of the little riot and baldomir is a bum but he was the recognized ww champ

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      • Vladimir303
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        #43
        Originally posted by 2501
        because Cotto and Shane stepped in the ring with Margo and Floyd didnt.

        What does that mean?

        Cotto, Williams, Mosley and ****, maybe even Cintron get more respect from Boxing fans than Mayweather.

        Mayweather talked the talk, but never walked the walk.

        Mosley talked it and BACKED IT THE **** UP. Cotto, Williams, Mosley all take risks which is why they have losses on their records. They step up to the plate against dangerous opponents.

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        None of em are considered risks and dangerous until they actually beat the guy. In this case, Mosley losing to Forrest and Winky.

        Would Floyd having fought Hatton been considered as taking a risk more had he lost to the guy???

        Common now....I get that some of these Teenage bopper floyd fans are getting heisty but you're no different if you fall into their traps.

        Responding to extremisim with extremism is not good.

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          #44
          Floyd accomplished alot in the sport of boxing. But he will never be regarded as one of the best of all-time and he will never be highly respected by boxing experts. Mainly because he never did jack s**t at 147. He beat Baldomir, Judah, Hatton???? And moved up to fight a part-time cash cow in Oscar. C'mon Floyd, those arent the best Floyd, the best are Mosley, Cotto, Margarito, Williams. If you dont fight or beat these guys you're nothing at 147. Nothing.

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            #45
            Originally posted by QUELOQUE
            So knocking out Cotto, Cintron 2x, Lewis, Sergio Martinez, and beating Clottey doesn't merit a fight with Mayweather. You nuthuggers are hilarious, Mayweather gets a pass from all of you for avoiding all the top welterweights. He suddenly retired right before Cotto-Margarito because he didn't want to get bombarded with the questions of fighting the winner. It was such a huge deal that he'd rather retire than take the Oscar payday
            who was sergio martinez?he's somebody now he wasn't anything to brag about a couple years ago
            the clottey fight was a close fight that i thought clottey won and clottey had just loss to baldomir prior to that, after his fight with clottey he losses to williams and then beats golden johnson,cintron is an o.k win but cintron has yet to prove that he is an elite fighter outside of margarito cintron has not fought a ww worth mentioning

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              #46
              Originally posted by 2501
              because Cotto and Shane stepped in the ring with Margo and Floyd didnt.

              What does that mean?

              Cotto, Williams, Mosley and ****, maybe even Cintron get more respect from Boxing fans than Mayweather.

              Mayweather talked the talk, but never walked the walk.

              Mosley talked it and BACKED IT THE **** UP. Cotto, Williams, Mosley all take risks which is why they have losses on their records. They step up to the plate against dangerous opponents.

              Floyd is a great fighter and COULD have been the greatest of this era, but he didnt dare to fight true comp.

              Cong**** to Mosley. Great way to start ending a career. Shame on Margarito if these allegations are true. I wonder how they will explain this.

              sorry bruh.. winning in 5 different divisions fighitng against bigger guys a majority of the time walks the walk.. stop hating.. this isnt about mayweather.. this is about margarito... but if you want to go there i think floyd would beat margarito based on style and skill sets.. props to shane on the great victory.. last time i checked mayweather never cheated unlike some boxers

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              • a-raines21
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                #47
                Originally posted by pugilistfan
                Floyd accomplished alot in the sport of boxing. But he will never be regarded as one of the best of all-time and he will never be highly respected by boxing experts. Mainly because he never did jack s**t at 147. He beat Baldomir, Judah, Hatton???? And moved up to fight a part-time cash cow in Oscar. C'mon Floyd, those arent the best Floyd, the best are Mosley, Cotto, Margarito, Williams. If you dont fight or beat these guys you're nothing at 147. Nothing.
                at 147? what about the 4other weightclasses? bias as hell man....at least make some since and dont be so opinionated when you make these bold statement, because otherwise you look more gulible than u are ready look

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by a-raines21
                  abc? he beat all legit recongnized champs... cotto on the other hand, has never beaten a champion........ neighter has clottey........

                  u simply cant argue with those facts
                  He beat Baldomir, at welterweight. Other than that, he's gone after the WBC titles, but I don't credit them, because like all the other soup titles, they suck.

                  At 140, he didn't win the TRUE championship.

                  At 135, he did beat the best fighter at the weight, but he wasn't a unified champion. Nonetheless, I'll give you the weight though, he was pretty clearly the best at that weight at his time.

                  At 130, we started out there and was growing as time went on, I don't blame him, but he had decent fights there.

                  This doesn't make him the TRUE champion in these divisions. Maybe two, welterweight and lightweight. However, then you have to defend against the best fighters in those divisions.

                  He has not.

                  At lightweight, he fought Castillo in the return and then nobody.

                  At welterweight, he fought De La Hoya at a different weight and Ricky Hatton who was moving up.

                  THAT is fact.

                  I am a HUGE fan of Floyd's style of fighting. I legitimately enjoy watching a master at work. I just prefer that he do it against the best in his weight. PRIME fighters.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by a-raines21
                    that simply shows his disinterest in the sport. duh!
                    No, he's a paper chaser, always has been, disinterest in the sport isn't a big enough reason to reject a 20-30 million dollar payday against someone he already beat.
                    Originally posted by Vladimir303
                    None of em are considered risks and dangerous until they actually beat the guy. In this case, Mosley losing to Forrest and Winky.

                    Would Floyd having fought Hatton been considered as taking a risk more had he lost to the guy???

                    Common now....I get that some of these Teenage bopper floyd fans are getting heisty but you're no different if you fall into their traps.

                    Responding to extremisim with extremism is not good.
                    No, De La Hoya, Collazo, and Margarito will be and were all considered big risks.

                    What type of streak or record the opponent carries into a fight matters, but what matters most is what your opponent does after the fight.
                    Originally posted by letsgobrady
                    who was sergio martinez?he's somebody now he wasn't anything to brag about a couple years ago
                    the clottey fight was a close fight that i thought clottey won and clottey had just loss to baldomir prior to that, after his fight with clottey he losses to williams and then beats golden johnson,cintron is an o.k win but cintron has yet to prove that he is an elite fighter outside of margarito cintron has not fought a ww worth mentioning
                    Who was Azumah Nelson when Salvador Sanchez beat him? Who was Bernard Hopkins when Roy Jones beat him? The Clottey fight was a close, but clear decision for Margarito in most to all accounts of it and in the three most important eyes. His loss to Williams was close, if I put up the scores of pres row you'd see a split group between who won. Cintron suffered a devastating loss and came back and won a title and on a streak, so it's a good win, not just ok. This is the first time in 10-12 years he actually clearly lost a fight.

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                    • a-raines21
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by ..Calderon...
                      He beat Baldomir, at welterweight. Other than that, he's gone after the WBC titles, but I don't credit them, because like all the other soup titles, they suck.

                      At 140, he didn't win the TRUE championship.

                      At 135, he did beat the best fighter at the weight, but he wasn't a unified champion. Nonetheless, I'll give you the weight though, he was pretty clearly the best at that weight at his time.

                      At 130, we started out there and was growing as time went on, I don't blame him, but he had decent fights there.

                      This doesn't make him the TRUE champion in these divisions. Maybe two, welterweight and lightweight. However, then you have to defend against the best fighters in those divisions.

                      He has not.

                      At lightweight, he fought Castillo in the return and then nobody.

                      At welterweight, he fought De La Hoya at a different weight and Ricky Hatton who was moving up.

                      THAT is fact.

                      I am a HUGE fan of Floyd's style of fighting. I legitimately enjoy watching a master at work. I just prefer that he do it against the best in his weight. PRIME fighters.
                      yea.......

                      cotto beat judah.... after floyd

                      baldomir beat gatti...... after floyd

                      gatti was a replacement for shane mosley, who apperently had a toothache

                      casamyor turned down a fight with may at 135...... that is why he moved up.....

                      he called out kostya all the time....... no fight was made....

                      floyd was recongnized by all experts as THE champion.... y cant you accept that?

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